• Members 976 posts
    April 24, 2023, 6:07 a.m.

    Also, it shows camera model, ISO, and focal length.

  • Members 4254 posts
    April 24, 2023, 6:07 a.m.

    I have no reason to believe that is true.

    ISO is set on every shot by everyone either manually or automatically by the camera.

  • Members 2365 posts
    April 24, 2023, 6:09 a.m.

    Touché 👍

  • Members 2365 posts
    April 24, 2023, 6:14 a.m.

    that's as bad as people signing there photos "Amazing Photography" on Facebook or anywhere actually.
    The guy Don B was a member of DPR from 2003. before i even owned a digital camera, i was shooting film. so i dont see any relevance only to make trouble.

  • Members 4254 posts
    April 24, 2023, 6:33 a.m.

    I'm just making the observation that you and he operate very similarly.

    I know you have said you were never DonB and I am not saying you are, so you have nothing to worry about DonB having been proved a liar online elsewhere.

  • April 24, 2023, 7:38 a.m.

    Not the only completely incorrect and ludicrous statement you've made in this thread, Don.

  • April 24, 2023, 7:40 a.m.

    Really, I think that what might or might not have been people's previous nicks on DPReview is a discussion that goes nowhere.

  • April 24, 2023, 7:40 a.m.

    'Bob' hasn't done anything.

  • April 24, 2023, 7:41 a.m.

    You learned a lot from him.

  • Members 2365 posts
    April 24, 2023, 8:28 a.m.

    my bad, so everyone wants to see what iso value is now as its an important measurement. sorry for the missunderstanding

  • Members 435 posts
    April 24, 2023, 8:54 a.m.

    That came out with EXIF about 4 days ago Don. It was in a gallery update. Not there one day and there the next.

  • Members 2365 posts
    April 24, 2023, 9:16 a.m.

    i posted 2 images today .they both showed data. 5 mins later they didnt and still dont. but i posted a screen grab when they were showing the data. those images are in this thread.

  • Members 976 posts
    April 24, 2023, 10:08 a.m.

    Is it possible to design a camera without an ISO dial?
    Given you can increase exposure, would you increase ISO setting instead?

  • April 24, 2023, 10:49 a.m.

    No problems.

  • Members 2365 posts
    April 24, 2023, 10:58 a.m.

    "exposure value" is how we communicate our photography to one and another, "exposure" is meaning less without iso /film speed. iso is and will always be part of "exposure value"

    back to your question. there will always be a need to adjust iso/gain. EV of a scene is dependant on what the photographer wants his image to look like. there will always be 3 controlling factors.

    like a car we will always need a steering system. brakes and throttle.

  • Members 976 posts
    April 24, 2023, 11:12 a.m.

    Irrelevant. By definition, exposure value (EV) in photography is a number that combines aperture and shutter speed.

    I'm asking about the on-camera user control over ISO, "is it possible to design a camera without an ISO dial?" The answer is "yes". In fact, there are cameras where the ISO dial does nothing, absolutely nothing, to raw data.

    Car analogies are lame.

    Instead, answer this:

  • Foundation 196 posts
    April 24, 2023, 11:28 a.m.

    True, but the steering system has nothing to do with controlling speed

    Similarly, ISO has nothing to do with controlling exposure

    Tim

  • Members 2365 posts
    April 24, 2023, 11:29 a.m.

    EV has been around for 100 years when light meters were invented. "exposure" and "exposure value" have 2 different meanings.
    skylum.com/blog/what-is-exposure-value
    www.earlyphotography.co.uk/site/meters.html
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouziW7mnWAs&t=4s