"The proper exposure"

They're both the same exposure. However, one may be acceptable while the other is not.

What determines acceptability is the compatibility of the settings used to produce an exposure with the creative goals of the photographer. An exposure can be unacceptable if the settings used don't achieve the photographer's creative goals.

One photographer might prefer the greater depth of field at f/8. Another may prefer the rendering of movement at 1/200-second exposure time.

If a photographer can achieve their creative goals at either collection of settings, then both exposures are the same and equally acceptable.

Sorry, been away from this fascinating thread thread this evening.

So, by now, does everybody here know what histogram we're exposing-to-the-right of? Finding it hard to believe that it's for example the tiny live luminosity one that shows up on my Panasonic LCD while I wave it around the scene ...

get off your high horse. i owned a charter Yacht with reef wide research + education permits. lived, swam and sailed the reef for 20 years and was a member of reef
research publication. what did you do play rubber duckies in the bath tub.

go watch the local news. you live in australia dont you ?

He he he. I love the way this thread brings out the passive aggressive's, furiously mashing the like button on any post that sympathises with their own point of view. Hilarious to watch. Good work Donald. Seriously :)

can you beleive these guys , they all think they are gods gift to man kind.

Don't do it!

The last time I tried proper exposure, I got arrested on the beach. So pick your beach carefully. ⛱️

Where's the laughing like a loon button at the bottom of the post? 😂😂😂

I'm glad you mentioned that. With reference to exposure, here's my proof:

ISO i2232: 2006 ... "photosite integration time" beats "while the shutter is open" any day, ho ho.

It has been shown in other threads that the definition I use is the same as on Wikipedia in that:

Amount of light that struck the sensor per unit area while the shutter was open = intensity of light × time.

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That is exactly my point. I posted either in this or another thread that I have not yet come across a beginner who has not been able to understand that the definition applies to all cameras once they understand the similarities in concept between mechanical and electronic shutters.

The definition I use is a layman's version of H = E x t.

exposure - amount of light that struck the sensor per unit area while the shutter was open

I think the camera controls are still named shutter release and shutter speed. To me, this makes "while the shutter was open" acceptable.

A guy who uses a digital camera to earn his living goes against science and scientists, biting the hand that feeds him.

Agree. Objecting to this usage is akin to objecting to using the phrase "dialing the number on your phone" or "hanging up after the conversation is over". Or objecting to use of the word "throttle" in a modern, fuel-injected vehicle.

The light doesn't care whether it's being gated by a shutter or integrated by a circuit. Let's get back to that...

May I ask who, just out of interest ?