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MarshallG
April 11, 2023
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    IliahBorg
    Members 976 posts
    April 29, 2023, 2:04 p.m. April 29, 2023, 2:04 p.m.
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    @DonaldB has written:
    @IliahBorg has written:
    @DonaldB has written:

    will post some raw links tonight when its dark so i can stretch the DR to max

    No. These ones, from previous:
    dprevived.com/media/attachments/e8/5d/1jMe9EhrHCA4OoBQ5oWKI9zeaumQm1zgY5t2kCv7VJOj7I52EIafAuum0CcoZl4Z/test-shot-noise.jpg

    just sent link via PM, please do not share but post your converted cropped images for discussion.

    Facts and experiments are discussed publicly and in a fully transparent manner.
    I'm refusing to download the images that are the subject of discussion here if I can't share them.
    Limiting the discussion to converted crops is also unacceptable.

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    DonaldB
    Members 2365 posts
    April 29, 2023, 9:19 p.m. April 29, 2023, 9:19 p.m.
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    @IliahBorg has written:
    @DonaldB has written:
    @IliahBorg has written:
    @DonaldB has written:

    will post some raw links tonight when its dark so i can stretch the DR to max

    No. These ones, from previous:
    dprevived.com/media/attachments/e8/5d/1jMe9EhrHCA4OoBQ5oWKI9zeaumQm1zgY5t2kCv7VJOj7I52EIafAuum0CcoZl4Z/test-shot-noise.jpg

    just sent link via PM, please do not share but post your converted cropped images for discussion.

    Facts and experiments are discussed publicly and in a fully transparent manner.
    I'm refusing to download the images that are the subject of discussion here if I can't share them.
    Limiting the discussion to converted crops is also unacceptable.

    All good, you have just confirmed the images i posted were the real thing. No need to discuss this further. 🙄

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    DonaldB
    Members 2365 posts
    April 29, 2023, 9:42 p.m. April 29, 2023, 9:42 p.m.
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    examples of how to crop and post comparisons for discussion
    gh6 a6300 video.JPG
    a6300 om1.JPG
    a6300 gh6.JPG
    a7s2 vers a7s3.JPG

    gh6 a6300 video.JPG

    JPG, 374.6 KB, uploaded by DonaldB on April 29, 2023.

    a6300 gh6.JPG

    JPG, 280.9 KB, uploaded by DonaldB on April 29, 2023.

    a6300 om1.JPG

    JPG, 762.2 KB, uploaded by DonaldB on April 29, 2023.

    a7s2 vers a7s3.JPG

    JPG, 506.3 KB, uploaded by DonaldB on April 29, 2023.

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    IliahBorg
    Members 976 posts
    April 29, 2023, 9:49 p.m. April 29, 2023, 9:49 p.m.
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    @DonaldB has written:

    you have just confirmed the images i posted were the real thing

    I haven't even looked at them.

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    DonaldB
    Members 2365 posts
    April 29, 2023, 10:14 p.m. April 29, 2023, 10:14 p.m.
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    @IliahBorg has written:
    @DonaldB has written:

    you have just confirmed the images i posted were the real thing

    I haven't even looked at them.

    🙄
    anyone else want to play ?
    iso 100 a74
    14 stops 1.jpg
    iso 4000
    14 stop.jpg

    14 stops 1.jpg

    JPG, 71.9 KB, uploaded by DonaldB on April 29, 2023.

    14 stop.jpg

    JPG, 62.2 KB, uploaded by DonaldB on April 29, 2023.

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    DanHasLeftForum
    Members 4254 posts
    April 30, 2023, 1:23 a.m. April 30, 2023, 1:23 a.m.
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    @DonaldB has written:
    @IliahBorg has written:
    @DonaldB has written:
    @IliahBorg has written:
    @DonaldB has written:

    will post some raw links tonight when its dark so i can stretch the DR to max

    No. These ones, from previous:
    dprevived.com/media/attachments/e8/5d/1jMe9EhrHCA4OoBQ5oWKI9zeaumQm1zgY5t2kCv7VJOj7I52EIafAuum0CcoZl4Z/test-shot-noise.jpg

    just sent link via PM, please do not share but post your converted cropped images for discussion.

    Facts and experiments are discussed publicly and in a fully transparent manner.
    I'm refusing to download the images that are the subject of discussion here if I can't share them.
    Limiting the discussion to converted crops is also unacceptable.

    All good, you have just confirmed the images i posted were the real thing. No need to discuss this further. 🙄

    This is just another example to add to the list of where you have deliberately not told the truth in these forums because he hasn't proven anything about whatever you sent him since he hasn't even downloaded them 🙂

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    DanHasLeftForum
    Members 4254 posts
    April 30, 2023, 1:24 a.m. April 30, 2023, 1:24 a.m.
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    @DonaldB has written:

    anyone else want to play ?

    Post the raw files that those histograms relate to.

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    DonaldB
    Members 2365 posts
    April 30, 2023, 2:09 a.m. April 30, 2023, 2:09 a.m.
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    @DannoLeftForums has written:
    @DonaldB has written:

    anyone else want to play ?

    Post the raw files that those histograms relate to.

    Mr Borg has them, they are the histograms from the images i posted earlier from my a74, I even sent him some identical raws from my a6300 as well as they also show similar results. Nothing for you to concern yourself about , he is extremely capable of using editing programs.

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    JimKasson
    Members 1738 posts
    April 30, 2023, 2:12 a.m. April 30, 2023, 2:12 a.m.
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    @DonaldB has written:

    Mr Borg has them,

    He says he doesn't. He says he didn't download them.

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    DonaldB
    Members 2365 posts
    April 30, 2023, 2:14 a.m. April 30, 2023, 2:14 a.m.
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    @JimKasson has written:
    @DonaldB has written:

    Mr Borg has them,

    He says he doesn't. He says he didn't download them.

    His quote "I haven't even looked at them."

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    DonaldB
    Members 2365 posts
    April 30, 2023, 2:16 a.m. April 30, 2023, 2:16 a.m.
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    a6300 iso 4000
    a6300 iso 4000.jpg
    iso100
    a6300 iso 100.jpg

    a6300 iso 100.jpg

    JPG, 80.2 KB, uploaded by DonaldB on April 30, 2023.

    a6300 iso 4000.jpg

    JPG, 70.0 KB, uploaded by DonaldB on April 30, 2023.

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    DanHasLeftForum
    Members 4254 posts
    April 30, 2023, 2:18 a.m. April 30, 2023, 2:18 a.m.
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    @DonaldB has written:

    Mr Borg has them, they are the histograms from the images i posted earlier from my a74, I even sent him some identical raws from my a6300 as well as they also show similar results.

    But he chose to ignore them, as he is entitled to do for the legitimate reasons he posted, so then he hasn't confirmed anything for you as you falsely claimed and so who knows what noise reduction or any processing might have been done to those jpeg images you posted.

    You're not prepared to post the links to the raw files publicly, which is your choice to make, but then it is totally reasonable and valid to believe you are hiding or falsifying something in the images you have posted.

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    DonaldB
    Members 2365 posts
    April 30, 2023, 2:21 a.m. April 30, 2023, 2:21 a.m.
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    @JimKasson has written:
    @DonaldB has written:

    Mr Borg has them,

    He says he doesn't. He says he didn't download them.

    While your there Jim, what is so controversial about the images i posted ? all i got was stupid trolling response's.

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    DanHasLeftForum
    Members 4254 posts
    April 30, 2023, 2:24 a.m. April 30, 2023, 2:24 a.m.
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    @DonaldB has written:

    what is so controversial about the images i posted ?

    @DannoLeftForums has written:

    You're not prepared to post the links to the raw files publicly, which is your choice to make, but then it is totally reasonable and valid to believe you are hiding or falsifying something in the images you have posted.

    @DannoLeftForums has written:

    so who knows what noise reduction or any processing might have been done to those jpeg images you posted.

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    DonaldB
    Members 2365 posts
    April 30, 2023, 2:25 a.m. April 30, 2023, 2:25 a.m.
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    @DannoLeftForums has written:
    @DonaldB has written:

    Mr Borg has them, they are the histograms from the images i posted earlier from my a74, I even sent him some identical raws from my a6300 as well as they also show similar results.

    But he chose to ignore them, as he is entitled to do for the legitimate reasons he posted, then he hasn't confirmed anything for you as you falsely claimed and so who knows what noise reduction or any processing might have been done to those jpeg images you posted.

    You're not prepared to post the links to the raw files publicly, which is your choice to make, but then it is totally reasonable and valid to believe you are hiding or falsifying something in the images you have posted.

    As I said earlier just not to you, anyone else can Pm me and i will post a link for them. simple as they open the files you are going to look like a total fool with your constant accusations.

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    DanHasLeftForum
    Members 4254 posts
    April 30, 2023, 2:31 a.m. April 30, 2023, 2:31 a.m.
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    @DonaldB has written:

    anyone else can Pm me and i will post a link for them

    You're back pedalling now.

    Earlier you said

    @DonaldB has written:

    i will PM them to everyone else, but not you. easily fixed ,you dont want to be part of a sensible conversation then i will leave you out.

    Now you want people to PM you first.

    You're clearly trolling and making things up as you go along.

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    IliahBorg
    Members 976 posts
    April 30, 2023, 2:42 a.m. April 30, 2023, 2:42 a.m.
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    @DonaldB has written:
    @JimKasson has written:
    @DonaldB has written:

    Mr Borg has them,

    He says he doesn't. He says he didn't download them.

    His quote "I haven't even looked at them."

    My quote is:

    @IliahBorg has written:

    I'm refusing to download the images

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    DonaldB
    Members 2365 posts
    April 30, 2023, 3:08 a.m. April 30, 2023, 3:08 a.m.
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    @IliahBorg has written:
    @DonaldB has written:
    @JimKasson has written:
    @DonaldB has written:

    Mr Borg has them,

    He says he doesn't. He says he didn't download them.

    His quote "I haven't even looked at them."

    My quote is:

    @IliahBorg has written:

    I'm refusing to download the images

    Even better. confirmation of PM link received. would you like me to send a screen grab of the conversation ? its just like sending a priority paid item via post ,and taking an image of the receipt and texting the buyer the item has been posted.

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