I really don't get you all:
If I'm right I cannot be wrong.
Can we agree?
Now If I am "Far right" the opposite is to be "Far wrong"
... but no idea how you on the other side of the pond, can turn left when you are right
( even when you are wrong - ça va sans dire )
I think there is a missing option in that poll.
I read what you said. It was over modded at dpreview and not modded enough here. You'll get your goldilocks forum one day...
Citation needed. I’m willing to concede that there were abuses. Not that DPR moderation was heavy-handed overall. In many cases, I felt at times that moderators were too slow to act…or didn’t act at all.
I’m not going to enter into this debate. I just want to be certain that a few loud voices aren’t mistaken for a majority without being certain that I'm also heard.
It depends on how you differentiate between abuse and heavy handness.
You do realise that posting your opinion is you entering into the debate. Either way I'd love to know which forum you felt was "under' modded / not modded enough at dpreview...
If you want to be heard in life you'd better speak up. No one here is blocking your opinion or thoughts despite what you write...
I really shouldn’t admit this Alan, but my girlfriend and I lived on Theaksons Old Peculiar for an entire summer weekend many moons ago. Long story, but it all began with six tequila slammers for breakfast !
Young and dumb. lol
It was good at any temperature.
Gave up the booze back in 2010 - - never going back.
It's not my forum. I have nothing to do with the running of these forums.
It's Bob and his team you are referring to regarding goldilocks forums.
I didn’t maintain a log of grievances. I’m sharing my overall impressions formed from my daily visitation and participation.
Yes...I am aware of that! Read it again and you will see I was clearly referring to you'll likely (even by accident) eventually find a goldilocks forum that meets your needs.
It is fairly obvious what occurred at dpreview. Anyone that spoke up would tend to meet the delete / change thread stroke of hand by a mod. Folk that spoke up to support their rhetoric, eg which ever cameras they were trying to big up for amazon, I don't know but they where given free reign and allowed to speak out in favour of certain things whilst no criticism of the product was tolerated at all.
Perhaps you never 'got into trouble' because you didn't speak out much or often or never had a particularly firm or strong viewpoint on most subjects. Just saying. Logically that is what happened. Otherwise many here were visiting a totally different forum from you for the last 15 years. Which is more likely to be true?
You are referring to Bob and his team and not me because I never said I am looking for a goldilocks forum.
You said the moderation at dpreview was too heavy handed but it's not enough here. I merely pointed out you've not found your ideal goldilocks forum yet...
You're rinsing and repeating what you posted earlier and so going round in circles.
My response is the same. I see your opinion as being aimed at Bob and his team because I never said I am looking for a goldilocks forum.
[quote="@primeshooter"]
You do realise that posting your opinion is you entering into the debate. Either way I'd love to know which forum you felt was "under' modded / not modded enough at dpreview...
On one of the DPReview forums a member made a post literally cursing everybody with "f" word for not acknowledging his posts when he / she helped. When I mentioned that this language is not appropriate on public forum, I've got a lecture from the moderator in English and no action toward this member.
I spoke my mind freely, expressed my opinions strongly, and engaged in healthy debate with impunity. All while maintaining a demeanor that was respectful of the community. I frequently engaged with moderators. yet managed to avoid censure. Did I observe oversteps? Yes. Did I see things that I felt merited intervention…also yes, and more frequently — though perhaps not by a great margin. I agree that we had very different experiences. Mine wasn't based on my being a milquetoast.
This is the exact kind of debate I’m not interested in. I lost my taste for argument as sport thirty years ago. As a member of this community, I am concerned about the course this site is steering. I stand by my observation and belief that the loud and outspoken don’t inherently form a majority. Carry on.
As GHundred said about you.
Ghundred
@AlanSh has written:
Please can stop this personal attacking (and yes, that is how I see it). It does you no favours.
Sorry, I should have known better than to start wrestling with a Pig. Everyone gets dirty, but the Pig loves it. Apologies
You very well get what Primeshooter is saying to you. But likeGhundred said above, you love it in the mud.
And that's fine, as long as you don't frig up the none to light moderation that Bob and his team are trying to put together here. You just don't know when to give up on a back and forth. So as much as you enjoy having the last word, stop and pause once in awhile, so you're not the cause of this ending up with it being Kim Jong Un moderation here.
Primeshooter is obviously entitled to his opinion but I never said I was looking for a goldilocks forum.
Yeah, I know. You just don't get what he's getting on about.
Keep in mind what else I said.
