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    May 5, 2024, 11:58 p.m.

    Just a clarification for anyone who might not be aware.

    Getting WB right in camera is really only a concern when shooting sooc jpegs because the camera's WB setting is baked into the camera's internal raw conversion to jpeg.

    If shooting raw the camera's WB setting is stored in the raw file's exif data and not applied to the raw data. The raw converter app reads the WB setting from the exif and applies it during the converter's conversion of the raw data to rgb data on the initial rendering of the raw data. The user can then adjust the WB sliders in the raw converter app to whatever they like. This gives much more control of the final WB for the image than the fixed WB settings in camera.

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    May 6, 2024, 12:57 a.m.

    I never really thought of this as a Comments and Crticisms Forum.

    I always thought of it as a collegial photo sharing forum just for the sheer joy of it.

    Steve Thomas

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    May 6, 2024, 12:57 a.m.

    Dan,

    Yes, Steve and I previously were talking about the white balance on cloudy days from SOOC JPEGs. When I used AWB on cloudy days, I had more of a bluish tone. AWB seems to work really well for me on other tough lighting conditions like when shooting indoors for example. But in cloudy weather, AWB for SOOC JPEGs were not good enough. I'm so glad that Steve mentioned that to me.

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    May 6, 2024, 1:01 a.m.

    Steve,

    That's correct. Our show-your-picture efforts had less to do with criticisms and more about sharing, learning and sometimes discussions about the things that were photographed etc.

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    May 6, 2024, 1:21 a.m.

    OK...I thought it about it some more. The time to post the weekly thread will be any time on Monday (PST). But I'll try to start this early rather than later...about 9 am. That way, it should be in time for those that live in Europe. In other words, early in the morning Oregon time should be late afternoon/early evening in Europe (if I understand this correctly).

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    May 6, 2024, 1:34 a.m.

    Steve,

    I love the term "collegial" that you used. How about the title of the thread be called the "Collegial Photo Sharing, Any Brand" followed by the date of when it is started? I already have some instructions developed to get us started. We can modify that later.

    Synonyms for collegial are friendly, amicable, cordial and neighborly. It's like we are all in this together to help each other. Any other ideas?

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    May 6, 2024, 1:34 a.m.

    Sony image 😁
    i did a shoot last weekend for a clothing company, it was for a mothers day special. but this image looked better when i cloned out the mother, lighting was natural, but it was getting late in the afternoon and iso was up a bit. still a good arty image just the same.

    coco claudia web 45 (2024_04_28 04_38_45 UTC).jpg

    coco claudia web 45 (2024_04_28 04_38_45 UTC).jpg

    JPG, 4.4 MB, uploaded by DonaldB on May 6, 2024.

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    May 6, 2024, 1:40 a.m.

    Dig,

    You could call it Collegial Photo Sharing Week (or Month, or whatever) any Brand.

    Steve

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    May 6, 2024, 1:44 a.m.

    Don,

    It is a good image. You caught a great moment with the child holding the hood with both hands. That's great.

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    May 6, 2024, 2:28 a.m.

    the daughter was just playing around waiting for her mother and the pose just came out of no where. so i just needed to get the eyes just in shadow ,which took lots of takes as they were getting tired arms.

    here is the original shot.

    coco claudia web 43 (2024_04_28 04_38_45 UTC).jpg

    coco claudia web 43 (2024_04_28 04_38_45 UTC).jpg

    JPG, 4.3 MB, uploaded by DonaldB on May 6, 2024.

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    May 6, 2024, 3:08 a.m.

    Don,

    OK...I see. That's interesting to see how difficult it must have been to get that just right with the eyes just in the shadow. Yes, the arms must have been tired. That takes patience to get it just right. How many times have we photographers asked our subjects, "can I take one more photo"? 😀

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    May 6, 2024, 6:13 a.m.

    Don,

    For what it's worth, I think your original, mother/daughter shot is a cute shot.

    Steve Thomas

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    May 6, 2024, 7:27 a.m.

    its a good shot, but the mother didnt like it, mind you she was very picky and even asked me if i could make her look not so tired in one of the images 🤔i wonder if AI can do that. 🤨because i told her i couldnt.

    tell me what you think is wrong with this image , the daughter picked it up before i posted them to the client 😁

    coco claudia web 12 (2024_04_28 04_38_45 UTC).jpg

    coco claudia web 12 (2024_04_28 04_38_45 UTC).jpg

    JPG, 1.9 MB, uploaded by DonaldB on May 6, 2024.

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    May 6, 2024, 1:42 p.m.

    Don,

    Before I respond to what is wrong with the image, I wanted you to know that I like it. She is pretty and yes looks a little tired. Her gaze makes us wonder what she is thinking. There is that good contrast between the woman who is pretty and the graffiti that is not.

    OK...what's wrong with it? I noticed what looked like the F-word on the left side.

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    May 6, 2024, 2:21 p.m.

    Don,

    Because of the lighting, and this particular woman's hair coloring, there is a strand of her hair on the left hand side of her head that blends into the graffiti on the bottom right hand corner. It almost looks like the graffiti has been spray painted right over her hair.

    I'm like Dig though. Aside from the graffiti, she's a pretty woman in a nice pensive mode.

    Steve Thomas

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    May 6, 2024, 9:39 p.m.

    yes the graffiti, i was that pushed for time to get the images processed i didnt even look at the background, 5 images had to be cloned ,which was a pain.

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    May 7, 2024, 4:32 a.m.

    Content-aware fill might have been a bit quicker than cloning but the quickest and easiest way for me is to just paint onto additional layers to change the f$@# to an abstract meaningless tag.

    This took about 60secs.

    cleanGraffitti.jpg

    You don't need AI to make her look less tired. The facial features adjustments in PSE (and I suppose Ps) are quick and easy to use.

    cleanGraffitti.jpg

    cleanGraffitti.jpg

    JPG, 66.7 KB, uploaded by DanHasLeftForum on May 7, 2024.

    cleanGraffitti.jpg

    JPG, 66.3 KB, uploaded by DanHasLeftForum on May 7, 2024.