• Members 14 posts
    May 18, 2023, 2:48 p.m.

    Although I'm quite happy with my X-T3, I did have the X-S10 for a while and appreciated its grip and small size. As I shoot mostly jpegs and enjoy creating my own film sims, the X-T3 is the superior camera; it can store custom film sims without needing to also store other camera settings, which was required on the X-S10, and (I assume) on the X-S20. I think the custom banks are limited this way on the X-H2/2S as well. I don't see why Fuji can't allow the user to keep custom film sim settings separate from other global camera settings on these cameras. I do like Classic Neg though and miss it from the X-S10.

    The other feature that I found useful on the X-S10, especially for timelapses, was the in-camera exposure smoothing during interval timer shooting (useful for day-to-night and night-to-day "holy grail" timelapses), which is not on the X-T3 and similar-gen cameras (although the X-T30ii has it). Fuji has been very slow to make any changes to their interval timer functions, adding exposure smoothing recently, and then adding Interval Priority on the X-T5. It would be nice if they could also add 4-digits to their number of shots taken with the interval timer (currently at 999, then infinity, which means the timer has to be manually stopped if more than 999 shots are desired). Both Nikon and Panasonic allow 4-digit limits, so there's really no reason not to. If the X-S20 has the latest interval features and film sims, I may be interested in it. Of course I also want in-camera timelapse video rendering, star trails, and starlight AF features, but Fuji can't seem to figure out how to do that with their X-trans sensor cameras... ;)

  • Members 399 posts
    May 18, 2023, 3:11 p.m.

    Looks like a generation 4.5 camera to me. It is using a generation 4 sensor and a generation 5 processor.

    Truman

  • Members 535 posts
    May 18, 2023, 4:01 p.m.

    Indeed. And also on the X-T5. I often make use of the “operational presets” myself, but wish Fuji would allow some way of setting “use existing setting” within them because right now it’s all or nothing…and switching between custom modes often requires that I make some manual adjustments according to “what I’m doing today.” For example, I might be shooting Jpegs at an event, switch to “Custom 3” because it gives me (most of) what I need right now — except it also sets the camera to shoot raw.

  • Members 18 posts
    May 19, 2023, 12:05 a.m.

    Fuji Rumours has leaked the price @ U$ 1299 ...thats a 300 increase for the same sensor and IQ but a bit faster and a couple of video features.

    We will know next week IF its that much better than its older Bro.

  • Members 29 posts
    May 19, 2023, 6:19 a.m.

    Eh, US$300 more for minor upgrades doesn't sound like a winning move.

  • Members 71 posts
    May 19, 2023, 6:44 a.m.

    Shouldn't neglect to mention the new battery, which also represents a significant improvement - but yes, as inevitable this price hike was, the rise into the quadruple digits is still psychologically painful. This can't be all you got for entry-level models, Foogee...

  • Members 164 posts
    May 19, 2023, 7:11 a.m.

    I assume this is just the first in a raft of price increases across the board, given the used prices have risen so much - why wouldn’t Fuji cash in on that. Not particularly looking forward to that aspect of the X-Pro4 announcement when it comes…

  • Members 113 posts
    May 19, 2023, 7:17 a.m.

    Lets not forget that we still going through an economic crisis, where inflation has been in the two digits for quite some time in many countries/regions. Everything has gone up in price.

  • Members 18 posts
    May 19, 2023, 9:44 p.m.

    Well,just last year they kept T5 at 1699....H2 was only 100 more than T1 but with 2 generations sensor and processor and HS2 was a stacked sensor so price justified.

    A 30% increase using a 2018 sensor ,well I dont think thats good business.

    A Canon R8 doesn't have IBIS but is FF,highly capable and only 200 more.The crop Canons are better value than this S20.I'm disappointed on re use of old sensor AND the price.Definitely won't be upgrading.

  • May 20, 2023, 2:19 p.m.

    But is that a bad thing? There's nothing wrong with the 26mp sensor as far as I know.

    Alan

  • Members 399 posts
    May 20, 2023, 3:28 p.m.

    Bad thing? No not at all. It provides market segmentation and I expect greater capability that a reduced cost. Seems Fujifilms learned its lesson about
    market segmentation. Clearly the XH2/XH2S is the top camera followed by the XT5 and the XS20 the next tier down.

  • Members 3 posts
    May 20, 2023, 6:02 p.m.

    I think it is interesting. Waiting to see how the autofocus is with the new processor. Pretty healthy price jump from the X-S10 if the rumors are correct. I owned a X-S10 for a while, but really didn't get along with the PASM dial & small viewfinder. Switched to an X-T4 & don't see me moving again.

  • May 20, 2023, 8:08 p.m.

    I'd like one more body - but not sure whether to get another X-T5 or the new X-S20.

    Alan

  • Members 1587 posts
    May 20, 2023, 8:15 p.m.

    I suggest you wait for the future X-pro4 😇

  • Members 18 posts
    May 24, 2023, 7:44 a.m.

    Well, only a bit over an hour to wait...OH, the suspense...lol

  • May 24, 2023, 10:31 a.m.

    It's been announced - with everything that Fuji rumours said. Looks nice. But quite expensive and getting close to the X-T5 price.

    Alan

  • Members 164 posts
    May 24, 2023, 10:41 a.m.

    Yes it feels like Fuji are looking at the soaring used prices for Fuji gear and looking to get in on that.. except most of those sky high prices are for the retro rangefinder style models, not DSLR-style PASM-toting vlogging cameras.

    I imagine the remaining stock of XS10’s are going to get hoovered up pretty quick as they look fantastic value in comparison.

  • Members 123 posts
    May 24, 2023, 9:08 p.m.

    It was announced for end of June and DPreview already has a preliminary writeup. Looks good for video applications. If it has any drawbacks other than not 40Mp, I didn't notice them.** Should we open a new thread to discuss?

    P.S. ** Yup, no HEIF output, not weather sealed.

    P.P.S. "No HEIF" was based on DPreview's side-by-side. Thanks for the correction, AlanSh.