Why Don't Camera's Have Raw Histograms?

DonaldB is a proven liar and so it's good to see more people are seeing how he operates.

He has falsified my posts in his quotes of them.

He has plagiarised other people's work and stupidly tried to justify it by saying he didn't actually claim in his post that it was his work even though he didn't reference the plagiarised work. How dumb is that? :-D

This clearly proves that any images or whatever he posts might not actually be his unless he actually claims it is.

So who knows where the images he posts come from and what processing has been done to them to support the agenda he is pushing at the time :-)

No, not when it's not ETTR.
Lossy is not 14 bits in any case. 12 in your.

No, I don't know that. But I'm sure you can prove it to everybody.

Also "no it's not". In underexposed shot, the bits are empty/missing. You could make it 64 bit file, with no fo sequences to the image data or quality. Someone is failing logic big time. I think the reference to chess is very true. I haven't seen such denial in years.

He attacked somebody else saying that I proved it.

it was on DPreview knock yourself out finding it was 5 months ago River Photography

I don't want to understand anymore. I mean I can't rely on what he said. It matters to me to the depth of what you say, and I don't want to verify by re-reading it all. I leave it at my vague reading, as I can't lose my time with Donald's keyboard output.
Best of luck. Maybe we reach some end one day.

😂 truth will ALWAYS prevail. poor old Dunno will always come unstuck 😁

people read into my post only to reject/oppose my POV I say its black they say its white ,they will never agree . because if they do they loose.

You said it's still 14 bits. Well, it's not. Do you agree?

you seem to know more than Sony 🥱

I personally don't like trying to create detail in areas that are not in focus , If the eye falls outside of what is sharp for me sharpening it to make it look sharp adds artifacts that I really don't care for. This also introduces artifacts into the out of focus areas that can also introduce ugly out of focus transitions.
But this is just me and what I prefer when photographing wildlife. If the eye is your goal to have in focus then it should be

the image is not about eye focus. i was challenging the jpeg haters and so far i win. 24 hours and not one challenge image . i will post another of my King Charles later.

My discussion was about processing and how people like to try and pull detail out of an area that is OOF

Processing and how it should be done is a personal preference for myself and for wildlife photography my preference is to have a image with a more realistic appears that over a lot of the high contrast and tonal curves that produce eye candy that many seem to like ( this is not my thing)
Also the mood that is set by the WB is another key factor that is a personal preference as a great deal of what I shot is in golden hour light or warmer richer light
This can and is very hard to create with in camera WB

Well if you are shooting for ETTR the color channels are important, setting up you camera for ETTR is one of the key 2 factors that go into creating images when exposing for raw. The other is setting up the converter for those images taken for exposing raw and this has everything to do with how the color channels are saturated. From just following you and your replies I can clearly see that none of these factors are even thought about in your style of photography and clearly that you are not exposing to the right when clearly you think your are.

That's not what I asked you.

Somehow, I feel unchallenged.
A) Did not see the challenge.
B) Did not see the benchmark.
C) Did not see the goal/request detail.

You missed on all vital points of proper open fair challenge. All I see is bragging.

You also seem to be less than right on the conclusions. You are actually not right if you support your own case, dismissing other cases.

And so this way one doesn't want to even enter such challege, as it is for nothing. Maybe for birds pooing on chessboard.