Why Don't Camera's Have Raw Histograms?

Is that a question? It seems like an assertion to me.

so with all your testing you never noticed ? hmmm.... sounds like your testing is not very deep.

There you go with the insults again. I found the live histogram to be visually synched with the preview image in the viewfinder when I used Sony cameras. There was no 1.5 second delay. You could move the camera around and the histogram updated in real time as you changed what the camera was pointing at. Your camera is behaving differently from any of the Sony's I've tested if there's a 1.5 second lag for the live histogram and the live zebras.

And that's not the result of shallow testing.

Let's not discuss who has the memory loss here :))
I answered several times that you need to do proper testing to determine the facts and post full results.
I also told you 1/3 EV is your guesswork, and it's incorrect.

He may be experiencing unusual delays due to exotic camera setup. I never checked all combinations of parameters.

Please do us a favor and review the work you have already done, review what Jim has said about the differences in your posted raw and back of the camera histograms, ( you have several) and they all show the very opposite to what you are stating.
It is all there for everyone to see, we all see the difference plane as day, It has been described several times to you and here we are again.

Who's on first?

Ian, some time back I posted

dprevived.com/t/lets-save-this-site/3506/#post-38309

If we keep responding, they'll keep coming back and never go away ...

i dont have to review past images, I own the camera and see it every day. you dont and neither does anyone else by the looks, your gear has a histogram that might be 10 stops out but i dont, seems simple to me.

I have a Sony a6600 nearby, and its live histogram changes when changing WB. Since the live histogram is tiny and luminance only, the changes are not as obvious as in the RGB histogram in the image review.

checked it out and it only happens using auto iso, with fixed iso its instant, no delay. Just as Jim was experiencing.

its very small and really only a guide . try the one in the display menu its quite big but you cant see the image.

The largest live histogram is in the display mode "For viewfinder." In that display mode, it is even easier to see the change caused by changing WB.

Because there are enough 'serious' photographers and pros to make a business case.

As long as we are on a why kick, why the qwerty keyboard when dvorak is superior and allows for much faster error free typing?

Maybe a majority of people are using raw now. As I wrote: "If I had to guess..."

So...in other words, your Sony camera's live histogram/blinkies is pretty useless for JPEG shooters. Interesting design decision by Sony to piss off all those JPEG shooters and not even mention the different behavior in any of the user documentation.

Around 7%. My point is different. If the number of raw shooters is enough to keep raw as an option, why it isn't enough to show the histogram of the actual data written or to be written?

Check that you have the current firmware installed. Go outside. Cover the lens, wait 5 secs, open the lens, check the delay. Try both ISO auto and fixed ISO in LV effects on, then in LV effects off.

For me the "mistake" is shooting JPEG. If the OOC JPEG is sufficient for your purposes, good for you, but that doesn't mean it is for everyone.

have the latest firmware. tested the camera its only the exposure compensation dial that has the delay. its not a delay as such but a gradual shift to the required brightness. not an instant "bang" its there. its no big deal just an observation.