• Sept. 1, 2023, 1:27 p.m.

    We have a PM system. I am on here at least once every day, so I normally pick things up quickly. But getting bugs fixed depends on others - and they are very busy with other things at the moment. I hope to have some timescales on when things may happen in a week or so.

    Notifications - yes, it's broken, but it will be re-enabled in the next version of Misago, which we hope to update here this month (September). But, as you know, things can get delayed.

    Alan

  • Sept. 1, 2023, 10:25 p.m.

    So, here's a partial list of things we want to try and achieve in the near future.

    Update the Misago underlying forum s/w to the latest version (currently 0.36.1). This should give us notifications so we can see when someone has replied to a thread that we have joined in with. There's other benefits to the latest version. Have a look here misago-project.org/t/misago-036-and-0361/1222/ and here misago-project.org/t/misago-035-the-one-with-notifications/1213/ for some of the details.

    Get the email server working. This should give us additional email addresses for correspondance.

    Make some improvements to the look and feel of the home page. Have a look at dev1.dprevived.com for the layout. We've reduced the vertical spacing between forum names and changed some of the colour schemes. This work is still ongoing, so it may change before it makes it to production.

    Introduce a payment processor for any donations.

    Possibly update the editor to be a better wysiwyg one.

    Go through the bug & feature list that we have and produce a work plan for those.

    Threaded view.

    Update the terms of service and privacy documentation and post them as a PDF.

    Bring in GDPR documentation and forms (a requirement we should have done some time ago).

    All of this depends on people being available, so there are no timescales here. Please be patient with us - we are a small (but dedicated) team and we have lives to live outside of this forum.

    Once we are more stable, we can then look at adding further features such as the editorials & reviews we have been talking about.

    Cheers

    Alan

  • Members 108 posts
    Sept. 3, 2023, 8:40 a.m.

    sirs,

    I note that some corespondents mention "off topic" diverging posts. In my experience distant topic related digressions can be quite interesting, so I hope you will not discourage such contributions.

    Also , a system that automatically appends links to similar topics below the last post in a thread would be useful. However, indisciminate quotation clusters for participants with deficient memories (or who are too lazy to follow entire discussions) should be discouraged. Maybe made impossible.

    p.

  • Members 449 posts
    Sept. 3, 2023, 2 p.m.

    Hi,

    The side discussions occuring is where Threaded View comes in. You can now see them and choose to keep reading down a side discussion or not. It is a one thought leads to another thing, and some very interesting thoughts do come up. Others, of course, aren't so interesting and then can be ignored as one wishes.

    That's far preferable to constant cries of It's Off Topic. ;)

    Some folks don't like threaded view, so just have that user selectable. Me, I'd be in Threaded View, FWIW. But, then, I like off topic discussions at times.

    Stan

  • Sept. 3, 2023, 2:42 p.m.

    At the moment, we have no plans to stop or dissuade off topic conversations. After all, that's what happens in a pub or bar - you start chatting about one thing and it soon turns to something else.

    Threaded view is on our list - but it will not be the first thing we update.

    Alan

  • Members 449 posts
    Sept. 3, 2023, 5:32 p.m.

    Hi,

    Yes, I agree. Plenty of better fish to fry first than Threaded View. I was just saying that's how I skip past side discussions I don't particularly wish to continue with. That, with the idea of letting them go wherever they wind up going.

    Stan

  • Members 599 posts
    Sept. 3, 2023, 8:54 p.m.

    Good call!

  • Members 1662 posts
    Sept. 3, 2023, 9:04 p.m.

    Indeed! My experience here is proof to me that it pays to keep an open mind... because while I would have been for keeping off-topic discussion really limited before, I feel like I have seen a number of examples here, where it was really fun and productive. If it takes over the majority of the thread it originated in and hinders the conversation, the possibility of taking part of it out as a new topic is a nice one to have, but usually off-topic things settle down after a while anyway.

  • Members 599 posts
    Sept. 3, 2023, 9:12 p.m.

    Precisely. It would never really make sense to restrict free flow of thinking regardless of direction. Brain-storming is all about that...

  • Members 4254 posts
    Sept. 12, 2023, 1:43 a.m.

    For anyone interested and who hasn't seen it yet, the link to the letter the CEO and founder of Gear Patrol published on DPReview today is in the -

    dpreview: letter from the CEO

    thread.

    It is very clear to me Gear Patrol are going to make a serious attempt to make DPReview sustainable for the long term.

    Even if it proves to be unsuccessful, DPReview will be around at least for the short term.

    It is clear to me that DPRevived is sinking fast at the moment and so "urgent" action needs to be taken by Bob and his team if DPRevived is going to survive at least whatever DPReview's short term life span might be if it doesn't survive long term.

    I see today on the Users page here that the 50th ranked user has posted only 14 times in the last 30 days. Just a couple of months ago the 50th ranked user was posting 30-32 posts in the last 30 days - that's ~1 post per day. That is a very clear sign users are leaving and/or cutting back participation at a large rate.

    In any case, it all sounds encouraging for DPReview, according to the Gear Patrol's CEO's letter, and time will tell if DPReview will survive in the long term but having an enthusiast photographer as the driver behind it is a very good start.

    Someone has been sharing their DPReview account with me for a while now and so I will be staying there from hereonπŸ™‚.

    Good luck to DPRevived but it is very clear to me that it is sinking fast at the moment and I doubt the forum "model" Bob and his team have chosen is sustainable in the long term.

    I have put on my floaties and am abandoning ship.

    Adios DPRevived πŸ™‚πŸ™‚πŸ˜Ž and good luck for the future.


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  • Members 435 posts
    Sept. 12, 2023, 5:40 a.m.

    Well in that case it's worth it to start posting here again πŸ˜‰

    Bye Danno πŸ˜€

  • Sept. 12, 2023, 9:24 a.m.

    We do have plans to make this site a little more unique. However, things have been delayed due to Bob being quite ill and Martin having real work to do. I did explain above what we are going to aim at and these plans are progressing.

    If anyone wishes to home themselves at DPReview, that's fine. We are not trying to compete with them - as evidenced (I hope) by the forum re-org recently.

    I am hopeful that we will see some changes/updates this month and will also be able to talk in more detail about future plans. But we will always be a 'niche' site compared to DPReview and I don't see that every changing.

    Alan

  • Members 435 posts
    Sept. 12, 2023, 10:07 a.m.

    While you are there Alan, can you check my permissions because I can only reply using a quote. My "post reply" and starting a thread is greyed out. So I can only reply using a quote to a thread.

  • Members 108 posts
    Sept. 12, 2023, 11:09 a.m.

    the entire discussion history found in a thread is absoljutely valuable, but excessive quotations clog up with noise, so that should be avoided or disabled. In this case I for once use a quotation, but only to be quite precise ad post content.

    p.

  • Sept. 12, 2023, 1:10 p.m.

    I can't see anything obvious apart from you are also a beta tester. I could remove you from that and see what happens - but let's talk about that separately, not here. So, PM me.

    Alan

  • Members 435 posts
    Sept. 13, 2023, 5:53 a.m.

    Ahh, I can only quote like I said Alan. Even PM don't work.

    All those start thread, post reply and PM are all grayed out. I can't start or reply to anything unless I quote a post πŸ˜‰ that's the issue.

  • Sept. 13, 2023, 11:21 a.m.

    Weird.
    OK - step 1. I will remove you from the beta list. Log off and log back on and see if that works.

    If not, can you email me (alansh52@outlook.com) your password? I can then log in as you and have a look.

    Alan