To catch a sky like that is one thing but to get the location and industrial aspects with it is another. Well done.
To catch a sky like that is one thing but to get the location and industrial aspects with it is another. Well done.
I like it, whether I may or may not be a customer of Fat Joes. The artwork stands out but there is also the bold oranges and yellows. I like the sometimes bold but mostly pastel colours of California.
@Bryan has written:There may well be some eggs in there...
Excellent shot, fractionally blurred, but you know that. Love the colours and position.
Thanks Chris. I tried a touch of sharpening but the bright reflections on the feathers didn't like it. I was happy with the soft leaf blur.
What a beautiful bird! Exotics such as this would only be found in a zoo or a pet shop here, never in the wild unless it escaped from a cage. Would it hold up to raising the shadows a bit in those darkest areas? If a crop (which my bird shots usually are), maybe not. Anyways, a lovely bird I wish I could spot in a broken tree.
Thanks minniev,
Soon I hope to have some pp up to the task of raising shadows and masking etc.
Well, if there aren't, there soon will be.
Disclaimer. I can't look at this image without seeing it along with a heap of my personal Australian baggage. It will look quite different to others.We have a Rainbow Lorikeet and a broken branch. The angle of the stump and the jagged points suggest the break was quite violent. The dark shadow (plenty of detail when viewed large) shows that a cavity has been formed. It's a matter of some significance in Australia. That's the way Eucalyptus trees break. The hollows are essential for breeding, especially for parrots and smaller marsupials. Re-afforested areas rarely get to develop nooks and crannies like these before they are harvested. In older timber areas, the timber industry claims it should be able to remove old dead/damaged trees, including in conservation areas.
What I see when I look at this image is a political statement.
I never thought of the photo as a political statement but you are right about native forest versus re-forested areas. We don't even notice the hollows until we see the wildlife utilising them.
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Brilliant. Position of humans on the bottom is ideal. Gives us full idea what they are observing. Glorious sunset. Well done.
While I like the composition as shown, I think I would like it even better with just a bit more dark ground on the bottom, as a stronger baseline.
Thank you Roel,
Maybe a "smidge" more might help but it just comes down to personal taste.
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@DanHasLeftForum has written: @xpatUSA has written: @DanHasLeftForum has written:I did read the posted exif data.
In that case, why did you say you were "really confused about why the sky looks so gloomy" - when the sky was so obviously under-exposed according to the displayed EXIF?
At the same or smaller equivalent exposure I have no difficulty in getting a natural looking sky.
Maybe Chris shot sooc jpeg and the camera picture style settings outputted a dark sky?
You can see Chris' exif data in his post at
dprevived.com/t/this-week-through-your-eyes-20241102/6399/post/87562/
This is a similar scene with a very similar exposure* that Chris used and the sky looks ok on my screen.
f/8, 1/2000s, ISO 100
* exposure - amount of light striking the sensor per unit area during a shutter actuation.
No need to tell me what exposure is and your example is not the one I was talking about.
Here's the image I was talking about:
I just now downloaded and examined my example in the GIMP. My comment was based on the Exposure Value for the camera settings, f/4, 1/6400, 200 ISO which come to almost 18 Ev which is 2 EV more than bright sunlight, see here which explains why 2 EV more means under-exposed. However, the virtually zero-contrast sky is not explained by my previous comment, grump. Cranking up the sky contrast to the max brought out zero cloud detail.
I conclude that something untoward happened in post-processing but, in answer to your question, I have no idea what.
In Chris' photo the same exposure, as defined earlier, using f/8 as in my photo is f/8, 1/1600s.
I used a slightly smaller exposure of f/8, 1/2000s and the sky looks ok.
The point I was making is that the sky was not underexposed (according to the definition of exposure I use) as you claimed because the exposure I used in my example was the same or smaller than the exposures Chris used in his 3 photos and my sky is just fine.
I suggested the sky in Chris' photos might be due to post processing of the raw data.
Whether it was done in camera or manually I don't lnow.
@xpatUSA has written: @DanHasLeftForum has written: @xpatUSA has written: @DanHasLeftForum has written:I did read the posted exif data.
In that case, why did you say you were "really confused about why the sky looks so gloomy" - when the sky was so obviously under-exposed according to the displayed EXIF?
At the same or smaller equivalent exposure I have no difficulty in getting a natural looking sky.
Maybe Chris shot sooc jpeg and the camera picture style settings outputted a dark sky?
You can see Chris' exif data in his post at
dprevived.com/t/this-week-through-your-eyes-20241102/6399/post/87562/
This is a similar scene with a very similar exposure* that Chris used and the sky looks ok on my screen.
f/8, 1/2000s, ISO 100
* exposure - amount of light striking the sensor per unit area during a shutter actuation.
No need to tell me what exposure is and your example is not the one I was talking about.
Here's the image I was talking about:
I just now downloaded and examined my example in the GIMP. My comment was based on the Exposure Value for the camera settings, f/4, 1/6400, 200 ISO which come to almost 18 Ev which is 2 EV more than bright sunlight, see here which explains why 2 EV more means under-exposed. However, the virtually zero-contrast sky is not explained by my previous comment, grump. Cranking up the sky contrast to the max brought out zero cloud detail.
I conclude that something untoward happened in post-processing but, in answer to your question, I have no idea what.
In Chris' photo the same exposure, as defined earlier, using f/8 as in my photo is f/8, 1/1600s.
I used a slightly smaller exposure of f/8, 1/2000s and the sky looks ok.
The point I was making is that the sky was not underexposed (according to the definition of exposure I use) as you claimed because the exposure I used in my example was the same or smaller than the exposures Chris used in his 3 photos and my sky is just fine.
I suggested the sky in Chris' photos might be due to post processing of the raw data.
Whether it was done in camera or manually I don't lnow.
Gentleman, the weather dictates the conditions under which shot is taken. Camera is set for AV, which is an industry standard which governs the camera settings and ultimately metering. I do absolutely minimal pp - levels and sharpness. That's it, that's all. Result is wyswyg.
What I do recall is fairly dramatic changes in weather conditions that day - sun, clouds, wind which resulted in very challenging light. Camera records the nature's elements at the instant picture is taken. That's all I know. I hope this helps.
Gentleman, the weather dictates the conditions under which shot is taken. Camera is set for AV, which is an industry standard which governs the camera settings and ultimately metering. I do absolutely minimal pp - levels and sharpness. That's it, that's all. Result is wyswyg.
Wyswyg is not necessarily always the case depending on the lighting and metering mode and whether you even use the camera's metering.
What I do recall is fairly dramatic changes in weather conditions that day - sun, clouds, wind which resulted in very challenging light. Camera records the nature's elements at the instant picture is taken. That's all I know. I hope this helps.
No problem.
The point I was making is that with the same or slightly smaller exposures than what you used my sky looks natural given a similar sunny day you described for your photos.
Do you recall if the sky was blue, overcast or something else when you took your photos?
<deteted> TMI
@JSPhotoHobby has written:It won't look like anything unless you make it big.
I have to ask what is the pretty coloured stick like object in the bottom right corner?
The thing that looks like Santa traveling across the sky? He is getting in some practice before the big day.
Just kidding, it is the lights on an airplane. This was a 3 second exposure.
The thing that looks like Santa traveling across the sky? He is getting in some practice before the big day.
Just kidding, it is the lights on an airplane. This was a 3 second exposure.
Thanks - interesting
@ChrisOly has written: @DanHasLeftForum has written: @xpatUSA has written: @DanHasLeftForum has written: @xpatUSA has written: @DanHasLeftForum has written:I did read the posted exif data.
In that case, why did you say you were "really confused about why the sky looks so gloomy" - when the sky was so obviously under-exposed according to the displayed EXIF?
At the same or smaller equivalent exposure I have no difficulty in getting a natural looking sky.
Maybe Chris shot sooc jpeg and the camera picture style settings outputted a dark sky?
You can see Chris' exif data in his post at
dprevived.com/t/this-week-through-your-eyes-20241102/6399/post/87562/
This is a similar scene with a very similar exposure* that Chris used and the sky looks ok on my screen.
f/8, 1/2000s, ISO 100
* exposure - amount of light striking the sensor per unit area during a shutter actuation.
No need to tell me what exposure is and your example is not the one I was talking about.
Here's the image I was talking about:
I just now downloaded and examined my example in the GIMP. My comment was based on the Exposure Value for the camera settings, f/4, 1/6400, 200 ISO which come to almost 18 Ev which is 2 EV more than bright sunlight, see here which explains why 2 EV more means under-exposed. However, the virtually zero-contrast sky is not explained by my previous comment, grump. Cranking up the sky contrast to the max brought out zero cloud detail.
I conclude that something untoward happened in post-processing but, in answer to your question, I have no idea what.
In Chris' photo the same exposure, as defined earlier, using f/8 as in my photo is f/8, 1/1600s.
I used a slightly smaller exposure of f/8, 1/2000s and the sky looks ok.
The point I was making is that the sky was not underexposed (according to the definition of exposure I use) as you claimed because the exposure I used in my example was the same or smaller than the exposures Chris used in his 3 photos and my sky is just fine.
I suggested the sky in Chris' photos might be due to post processing of the raw data.
Whether it was done in camera or manually I don't lnow.
Gentleman, the weather dictates the conditions under which shot is taken. Camera is set for AV, which is an industry standard which governs the camera settings and ultimately metering. I do absolutely minimal pp - levels and sharpness. That's it, that's all. Result is wyswyg.
What I do recall is fairly dramatic changes in weather conditions that day - sun, clouds, wind which resulted in very challenging light. Camera records the nature's elements at the instant picture is taken. That's all I know. I hope this helps.Thanks for the info, Chris!
Looking again in the GIMP at my example in question, I'm not certain we're done with that particular image:
To me the sky in the frame looks overcast with no significant cloud.
the camera's Auto Exposure was set to Spot and presumably aimed at the windsurfer, causing the metering to set quite a low exposure perhaps due to the specular reflections from the sea caused by a bright sun overhead or behind.
The selection's perceptual space RGB histogram is indicative of very low contrast, typical for an overcast sky
[edit] I just noticed the huge difference in focal length between the colorful shot (17mm) and the dull-sky shot (210mm). But not much color at the horizon in either one. I think I've got it, by George .... [/edit]
What say, Gentlemen?
ExpatUSA - you deserve a medal for persistance and drilling for details. Take a break today...
If my memory serves me well, at the instance the shot was taken there was a sudden lull in the weather and the sky behind the surfer dude became grey, but the beam of light was enough for me to capture his action...He was really reading the wind correctly. I was attracted by the whole scene - man against nature at it's best.
What say, Gentlemen?
If the sky was grey as Chris says it might have been then it wasn't underexposed as you originally claimed.
If my memory serves me well, at the instance the shot was taken there was a sudden lull in the weather and the sky behind the surfer dude became grey, but the beam of light was enough for me to capture his action...