• Members 4254 posts
    Aug. 13, 2024, 11:36 a.m.

    Being right leads me to wonder where in the real world you might also have deliberately not told the truth.

    This is Roel's thread, not yours. It should be up to him if your proposed discussion is appropriate in one of his threads or whether he prefers you start your own thread, especially since there is no threaded view on dprevived.

    In any case, the criteria you use to determine if an image looks natural or not to you has no influence at all on how I determine if an image looks natural to me or not.

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    Aug. 13, 2024, 1:35 p.m.

    The tilt changes the angle we view this in more ways than one. The usual vertical angle means the viewer can quickly, even subconsciously, identify the scene. It fits into a well-known pattern and the brain quickly identifies a human in a field, but by being off by 45°, it no longer matches the memory bank immediately, and the viewer has to spend slightly longer to identify what is going on. This in turn triggers the question „Why?“ as the brain naturally tries to work out why it was tricked for future reference, and the viewer probably then consciously wonders why the photographer has done it. This all means the viewer is forced to spend time thinking about the image, and simply scanning to the next image is less likely.
    It also indicates that the photographer is less interested in a purely documentary image, and more in the feeling and the relationship between subject and viewer.
    Finally the lines of concrete slabs, horizon and slopes of hills are not so obviously seen as such, but more as abstract leading lines, giving the image additional dynamism.
    All this would be rather wasted if the subject was unable to live up to the composition, but the happy, slightly coy smile of the woman in traditional dress, surrounded by the crops the village and the attractive hilly landscape is delightful.

    Pete

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    Aug. 13, 2024, 1:45 p.m.

    This is a good example of where severe processing has succeeded in enhancing the image. The warm colours and the sharp bee are positives, and the complementary colour in the centre probably helped attract my attention in the first place and then spend time studying the detail in the bee. It was only then that I realised the colours could not be as seen, but it didn’t matter, as they were attractive. The focus roll off pretty much coincides with the introduced orange, which helps blend it in a natural way.

    Pete

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    Aug. 13, 2024, 5 p.m.

    Pete,

    As much as I value your analysis of images here, I disagree with you on this. It's just a bee caught in a mostly monochrome flower bed. With a lot of post-processing color editing. The color manipulation is obvious and a bit heavy-handed. It's a mildly garish attempt in whatever the image editing program, probably Photoshop, to create a false "spot" light source for dramatic effect and is otherwise un-remarkable. The photographer saw the bee in the flowers and was easily able to capture it decently sharp with the amazing rapid-focus capabilities of most any current available. Or the bee suddenly landed on the flower while that was being photographed. It happens all the time. With the bee as the center of interest, the central and surrounding flowers fall where they do in no particular composition.

    Kind-of pleasant, semi-complementary colors, though.

    Rich

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    Aug. 13, 2024, 5:03 p.m.

    Everything I wrote in reply to Roel about the tilt and leading lines applies to this photo. This is definitely not meant to be seen as a pure record of a fine car, but an artistic and emotional interpretation, by both the sculptor and the photographer.
    Studying the image reveals parts of the car elongated and flying out of the engine, in an unusual explosion. All doors, bonnet and boot are open and lead towards the epicentre of the explosion. This makes a dynamic sculpture, enhanced by the bright red, and Mike has emphasised it with the wide angle lens, the tilted composition and tight crop. The reds may have been brightened, but in any case they have been thrust forward by the teal tint in the ground and chrome work.
    I have seen similar sculptures by a German artist named Stefan Rohrer, so maybe this is by him. In any case, I think the artist would approve of your interpretation.

    Pete

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    Aug. 13, 2024, 6:57 p.m.

    I posted recently that one of the aims for my images is to get people talking about them.

    You are contributing to that so thank you for posting your opinions.

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    Aug. 13, 2024, 7 p.m.

    Thank you Pete. I'm glad you like it.

    As I posted earlier,, the print certainly attracts eyeballs. Whether people then like it or not is for them to decide. That is the way I like it.

  • Members 611 posts
    Aug. 13, 2024, 8:50 p.m.

    The picture is constructed with quadrants of the windows, tiles, the buildings themselves and the roof structure, however the latter forms a much more fluid structure with waves, like a net. Maybe that is the reason I feel enclosed, or maybe it is because the structure is between the viewer and the open sky. The quadrants of the windows in the buildings become apparent and net-like and the buildings suddenly seem to trap rather than shelter. The tiny people are on the horizon. Are they scraping or are they trapped too?
    A thought-provoking image.

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    Aug. 13, 2024, 9:07 p.m.

    The owl is amongst a canopy of branches, but their diagonals lead to it and it’s big eyes hold us there, so it is the dominant subject, even though it is actually relatively small in the frame. The tilt of the owl gives it an intruding and inquisitive aspect, and, looking down at the viewer, it has an air of superiority. All this dovetails beautifully with the Choctaw wisdom to form a very satisfying whole.

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    Aug. 13, 2024, 9:25 p.m.

    The series shows a deserted world, yet the presence of people is felt strongly by their structures.
    In the first, the leaky lock gates allow little fountains of water to flow, and you have judged the speed nicely to give the right amount of blur in the water. That is very subjective, as some people prefer an extremely blurred, milky flowing water and others prefer every droplet caught sharply, but for me, that is about right.

    The second has a beautiful symmetry and leading lines, as others have already suggested. The train is small, but it hints at the .life, which is about to be brought to the scene. The plants amongst the buildings on the left of the yellow line contrasts well with the building amongst the plants on the right.

    The third is a homogenous scene of vegetation, split by the water of a river or canal. The man-made structure seems to be hiding amongst the trees, reminding us of human presence.

    The last is a busy little street, except it is deserted. It seems to be a very attractive place, which makes the lack of people even more interesting.