• Members 4254 posts
    June 29, 2024, 1:15 p.m.

    Ok, but I can't edit photos to suit people's individual eye sight.

  • Members 1320 posts
    June 29, 2024, 1:20 p.m.

    No. No amount of editing can fix that.

  • Members 4254 posts
    June 29, 2024, 1:24 p.m.

    Since no-one else who has viewed the image anywhere has told me it hurts their eyes, I hope you find someone who can cure your issue with your eyes.

  • Members 1320 posts
    June 29, 2024, 1:55 p.m.

    Over time I have posted some pretty ordinary pics on this forum. It only takes one person to relate the flaws and it's taken on board. After all, that is the function of the Critique part of C&C - don't you think?

  • Members 893 posts
    June 29, 2024, 2:13 p.m.

    FWIW I don’t see the incorrect quoting.
    Mike just kunda summarized different parts of the conversation, centering on different aspects, and expressed how all that would be easier to follow in a threaded forum view under the image - hence his frustration.
    No need nor trigger to be confrontational here.

  • Members 893 posts
    June 29, 2024, 2:16 p.m.

    That was all me.
    I responed to your initial image, even though there had already been other comments.

  • Members 4254 posts
    June 29, 2024, 3:01 p.m.

    It is very easy to use quotes correctly and not misrepresent what other people have posted.

  • Members 4254 posts
    June 29, 2024, 3:05 p.m.

    I pointed out the misquoting by striking out what I didn't say.

    I posted earlier how to use quotes directly.

    I also said that yes, anyone can make an honest mistake once but doing it again will be seen as deliberate and corrected.

    If people don't want their posts corrected then simply don't misquote me. It's that simple.

  • Members 4254 posts
    June 29, 2024, 3:12 p.m.

    But the problem is not everyone sees as a flaw what in your opinion is a flaw.

    Just because the photo hurts your eyes but no-one else's afaik does not mean there is a flaw in the photo.

    As I posted earlier, I consider feedback from everywhere my images are viewable.

  • Members 167 posts
    June 29, 2024, 4:44 p.m.

    The image has a couple of problems that can be corrected to make it less hurtful to some viewers. The accidental placement of intense green leaves behind the bird, and the deep blacks on the plumage. This result is a lot more soothing for my eyes:

    superbfairywren_PL.jpg

    superbfairywren_PL.jpg

    JPG, 1.1Β MB, uploaded by sybersitizen on June 29, 2024.

  • Members 4254 posts
    June 29, 2024, 9:07 p.m.

    Feel free to download it and edit it to whatever soothes your eyes.

  • Members 1802 posts
    June 29, 2024, 9:14 p.m.

    Nice edit. It takes care of the blocked up blacks in the feathers that I noted in my response; there's detail easily visible now. I had no complaint about the green in the background, but the less detailed browns/olives are more visually harmonious and let the beauty of the bird stand out more.

  • Members 4254 posts
    June 29, 2024, 10 p.m.

    That's interesting because the blacks are not blocked up in the feathers on my screen or in the print.

    Yes, the detail is more easily seen when zoomed in but they aren't blocked up at normal viewing on my screen.

    I suspect that sometimes people forget that a given image will not necessarily render exactly the same on every screen for obvious reasons.

  • Members 167 posts
    June 29, 2024, 11:15 p.m.

    Your version:

    Yours.jpg

    My version:

    Mine.jpg

    Mine.jpg

    JPG, 220.2Β KB, uploaded by sybersitizen on June 29, 2024.

    Yours.jpg

    JPG, 186.1Β KB, uploaded by sybersitizen on June 29, 2024.

  • Members 4254 posts
    June 29, 2024, 11:18 p.m.

    You're proving my point that a given image will not necessarily render exactly the same on every screen for obvious reasons.

    I can see detail in the black feathers on my screen as described earlier.

    I am not doubting they are blocked up on minniev's screen.

  • Members 167 posts
    June 29, 2024, 11:22 p.m.

    The point is that your version has a lot of blocked blacks. The histogram doesn't care about screen differences.

  • Members 4254 posts
    June 29, 2024, 11:30 p.m.

    What if the dynamic range of the screens differ or if the screen contrast settings are different or if the colour space the image is viewed in is different or if the screen brightness settings are significantly different?

    A given image will not necessarily render exactly the same on every screen for obvious reasons.

    Your histogram is only for one channel.

    Post the luminosity histogram.

    In any case blocked up pixels cannot be recovered just like blown highlights cannot be.

    Therefore your editing has created false details.

    Fwiw this is what I see on my screen when I look at the histogram and edit you posted. There is a lot of false looking purplish and greenish detail there which is not realistic at all.


    dprevived.com/media/attachments/3a/b8/bFlf9N4HZqcNrVuzPCBV3XUvSDTQdAMrR2zLqp0qniGZPp0PxR3PAfj1xpNW5KB6/sybersitizensedi.jpg

    I still see some details in the black feathers in my version. Whether they are accurate or not I don't know.

    People can look at my image and decide for themselves how much, if any, detail they see.

    sybersitizensEdit.jpg

    JPG, 120.8Β KB, uploaded by DanHasLeftForum on June 30, 2024.