• Members 1738 posts
    May 27, 2023, 8:30 p.m.

    Maybe in emphasis. The wider shot seems to me to emphasize the strangeness of the foreground drum major's actions, by showing there's nothing in front of him, but I never thought there was anything in front of him. I think that this is a case where knowing what was going on when I tripped the shutter might be getting in the way of my weeing how others might view the image. The conductor's hands are key for me in this shot, small though they are in the frame. I kept shooting and waiting for him to do something dramatic like that. The combination of that action and the bored look on the drum major's face is what I was going for.

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    May 28, 2023, 4:47 a.m.

    Thanks Jim. I'm always interested in what a photographer is intending to communicate when they make an image and what a viewer feels when they view the image. Of course, by no means are these always the same things.

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    May 28, 2023, 5:24 a.m.

    I couldn't agree more. But it isn't new. It is also something like what painters were saying as photography turned up. What happens next is that some things become devalued and other things become valued as we recognize the creative effort required according to the technology available. Education and knowledge play a role. Both are needed to understand the significance of a piece of art, no matter what the medium, at the time the piece is created.

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    May 28, 2023, 9:18 a.m.

    I truly hope you‘re right… I really doubt it this time though!

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    May 28, 2023, 3:13 p.m.

    If it should be the case that A1 so devalues photography that it becomes meaningless, I'd be confident that we'd have a resurgence of analogue and film as mediums for "art." Something like what has happened with vinyl v cd and streaming. With film cameras, it is probably underway. I'd be happy. Prints have always seemed to me to be the way to view photos. Could the increasing interest in monochrome cameras be a signpost?

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    May 28, 2023, 3:17 p.m.

    I think it is an interesting story that you could tell …. I haven't been down to the dam here in years ,, but back during the Bush/Obama recession many here were out of work and found fishing along the banks - that had been populated by the herons – and from the rocks along the river that herons use to fish from a necessity …. and as financial things eased the people stayed and the herons moved across and down the river but still fished the dam site .. I'd like to get back to the dam sites but age and problems keep me closer to my yard and city …

    WhyNot

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    May 28, 2023, 4:02 p.m.

    Just the R72 and pushing around the results in ACR to get fun colors.

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    May 28, 2023, 4:08 p.m.

    What non-capitalist world do you live in? The cost of film is already too expensive now. By the time this recurrence would have to happen, rolls of 35 would probably be $150 each just to manufacture. I'm sure I'm being hyperbolic on the cost, but as this process currently "dies" having to restart it, after it goes away, would be tremendously expensive to the point it would seem utterly cost prohibitive.

    Besides, the plan is that we're all gonna go back to cave painting by torchlight to keep it really real. :)

  • Members 1738 posts
    May 28, 2023, 4:25 p.m.

    You don’t need to buy film to do chemical photography. You can use wet plates, for example. You don’t need to buy photographic paper either. There are lots of print processes where you can coat your own paper.

  • Members 1662 posts
    May 28, 2023, 5:01 p.m.

    My personal thoughts (and I'll freely admit also mostly gut feeling) are, that this is the least of the concerns we're going to have. But again - I hope you're right and I'm more than happy to be wrong and if debating with myself if I want to finally get an enlarger to accompany my collection of enlarging lenses in 10 to 15 years is my biggest struggle, consider me one happy camper!

    Anyway... that's mostly off-topic here, I guess, so here are two images (made with industrial lenses from the past):

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    Breaking the fabric of space time...
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/52930868885_7689217cbe_b.jpg
    Snakes on a plain
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

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    May 29, 2023, 4:50 a.m.

    A number of things come together here. The dominating shape of the temple with touches of unexpected protusions that give get us thinking about where we are. The orange/red of sunrise/sunset along with the sun orb. The positioning of the birds- especially the helpful one that crossed the sun. I like the plants clinging to the wall and I like them as a foil to the man made shapes attached to the walls opposite.
    It all adds up to a recording of the kind of moment that gets people to build temples in the first place.

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    May 29, 2023, 9:51 a.m.

    Rainbow Lorikeet, had been feeding in this bottle brush tree.

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    JPG, 1.1 MB, uploaded by Bryan on May 29, 2023.

  • Members 1722 posts
    May 29, 2023, 3:19 p.m.

    I can't see any purpose behind the colour transformations you have made here.

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    May 29, 2023, 3:24 p.m.

    I'm not attacking the images you post, I'm trying to find consistency between the PP techniques you explore and what you are saying here about technology and art.
    I agree with you about the internet and its power though.

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    May 29, 2023, 3:47 p.m.

    Rainbow Lorrikeets and bottlebrush! That's an Australian combination with eye popping color possibilities. I'll get to the actual photo in a moment but I gotta say that the photo doesn't have the colours of the bottlebrush and only partly shows that of the lorikeet. A further aside. I'm in southern Italy and bottle brushes and eucalyptus trees are everywhere, as they are in Spain.
    Back to the photo. The head, the beak and the red rimmed eye that seems to look straight at us, plus the small area red breast, all are what get my attention. The branches and the rest of the bird all seem to get a bit jumbled with visual lines that take the eye to them but there isn't something there we want to see. There is a largish dark area instead. What about a crop of the head/eye/beak portion?
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    JPG, 634.6 KB, uploaded by MikeFewster on May 29, 2023.

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    May 29, 2023, 7:07 p.m.

    This one proves you don't need total sharpness, exquisite detail and a huge dynamic range to make a compelling image, in fact this photo lives from just the opposite. It provides just enough information to allow the HI (human intelligence, as opposed to artificial intelligence) to generate the missing details, in whatever way it feels.The fact that, despite its appearance, it was created within your own home is a challenge to see our own surroundings a little more creatively.

    Pete

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    May 29, 2023, 7:46 p.m.

    As a football fan, this one speaks to me! Your photos convey the joy at becoming Serie A Champions very well, and the joy is even greater, since Napoli last won the league in the days of Maradonna, who is still idolised today, as the photos show. I think the extra dose of emotion of finally beating the big money regular contenders is visible here too. Unfortunately the German league has just seen Bayen Munich win the league for a boring 11th time in a row, so hopefully Eintracht Frankfurt will win the cup on Saturday!
    The selection of photos is good too: the fans, the ecstatic motorcade,the kids and the homes, all linked by the sky blue colours.

    Pete

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    May 29, 2023, 7:50 p.m.

    I'm sure it would be creepy in real life, but in the photo, the spider looks beautiful. I like the way it seems to glow against the dark background. and the frame created by the torn web.
    This is not just a good macro, but a very attractive image.

    Pete