Such a fantastic shot - glad you didn't adjust the shutter speed... works great as it is!
Love the atmosphere in both of these and I admire your feeling for good composition and the well balanced processing!
Such a fantastic shot - glad you didn't adjust the shutter speed... works great as it is!
Love the atmosphere in both of these and I admire your feeling for good composition and the well balanced processing!
Thanks.
The body is slightly bigger than the Z7, but not by much at all. The 35-70 f/4.5-5.6 lens is quite a bit smaller and lighter than the 24-70 f/2.8S, but then it is the most compact zoom in the system and only equates to a 28-55, so it doesn't have the reach of the 24-70 and is a bit limiting as it stands. In terms of weight, configured as shown in the picture, the Fuji is lighter than the Nikon at 1430g vs 1670g, but that is mostly lens in the case of the Nikon and mostly camera in the case of the Fuji (both of those are with L-brackets fitted).
To make the system more useful, I will need to add at least one more lens. I keep looking at the 100-200, which would cover 80-160(ish), giving me enough reach for most situations and wondering if that would satisfy my needs? But that still leaves a sizeable gap between that and the 35-70. Fuji do make a lens for that though, in the shape of the 45-100, but then I'd be carrying three lenses, two of which are pretty heavy, which starts to undermine the relatively compact form factor.
It's an interesting camera though, it feels good in the hand and is reasonably snappy considering the size of the files it's chucking around (lossless 16 bit raws come to around 130MB). The IBIS is excellent too, it's no E-M1 MKII in that department, but I'd judge it to be a bit better than the Z7 from my experience so far. To counter that though, you do lose a stop in aperture for the same depth of field, so my usual f/8 on the Nikon becomes f/11 on this, so great IBIS is kind of a necessity when hand holding it.
The handling of dynamic range is a bit quirky compared to what I'm used to. Where the Nikon has a bit of latitude at both ends of the histogram (more in the shadows, but some in the highllights), this has none in the highlights. If there's any bunching on the right histogram at all, those areas are not coming back. However, recovery from the depths of the shadows goes really deep and comes back very clean too, so it just needs to be treated a bit differently when exposing for a high contrast shot.
So, on the whole I happy with it. It's capable of truly excellent results and has some great features, but I get the impression it's only going to suit specific use cases such as woodland photography or short hikes, with my Z7 still being the go-to camera for longer hikes and where more reach is required.
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Performing the distant past
I really like this one too, but maybe a tighter crop?
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Wow - these are stunning.
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I've treated myself to a new (used) camera. So far, I've taken it out for a couple of walks in the local countryside to give it a trial run and see how it stacks up against the Z7.
The first outing was a trip to Brinscall woods around teatime. Here I did some side by side tests with the Z7, although they're not very scientific, but taken on a tripod with approximately equivalent focal length, apertures and base ISO. Just for fun, here's a pair of the side by side shots that I've attempted to match in Capture One, exported to 2048 pixels on the long edge and removed the EXIF. Which is which and what might the mystery camera be?
Well I'm guessing, the Nikon Z7 is the second shot, and the first shot is from a Fuji :-)
The first one has less chromatic abberation, visible if you compare the top right hand corner and look at the purple colour of the small branches against the bright sky. What lens was used here?Yep, you're right, the one on the left is some sort of Fuji and the Z7 is on the right. I guess the filename gave that away, I must cover my tracks better in future.
Indeed 😎
Quoted message:In both cases the highlights were blown, so I think what looks like chromatic abberation is actually just incorrectly recovered highlights around the blown edges.
Glad to hear that the Z7 wasn't producing that purple colour "under normal conditions" :-)
Quoted message:I've attached a 100% side by side of the images from C1P showing before and after adjustment (Fuji on the left again). BTW, only one of those images is 100%, the other has been scaled to match.
I guess the question is ,...
51 or 102 MP ?Well, it could have been 16, 24 or 26, but yeah, I went higher with the GFX100S. I did consider the GFX50SII, but there didn't seem to be a lot of benefit there over the Z7, so I figured if I'm going to splurge on a medium format camera it would only be worth it if I went for the higher res sensor.
For now I've only got the 35-70 lens, but the results are impressive at full res. Downscaled to internet sharing sizes there doesn't seem to be a lot in it, maybe subtle differences in colour differentiation and tonality, but it's pretty negligible, at least at base ISO. Of course I am comparing a top end 24-70 f/2.8S lens to what is in effect the kit lens on this system.
Congrats on the new camera :-)
It sounds very good and those results look good too.
How is the size and weight compared to your Z7 system ?Thanks.
The body is slightly bigger than the Z7, but not by much at all. The 35-70 f/4.5-5.6 lens is quite a bit smaller and lighter than the 24-70 f/2.8S, but then it is the most compact zoom in the system and only equates to a 28-55, so it doesn't have the reach of the 24-70 and is a bit limiting as it stands. In terms of weight, configured as shown in the picture, the Fuji is lighter than the Nikon at 1430g vs 1670g, but that is mostly lens in the case of the Nikon and mostly camera in the case of the Fuji (both of those are with L-brackets fitted).
To make the system more useful, I will need to add at least one more lens. I keep looking at the 100-200, which would cover 80-160(ish), giving me enough reach for most situations and wondering if that would satisfy my needs? But that still leaves a sizeable gap between that and the 35-70. Fuji do make a lens for that though, in the shape of the 45-100, but then I'd be carrying three lenses, two of which are pretty heavy, which starts to undermine the relatively compact form factor.
It's an interesting camera though, it feels good in the hand and is reasonably snappy considering the size of the files it's chucking around (lossless 16 bit raws come to around 130MB). The IBIS is excellent too, it's no E-M1 MKII in that department, but I'd judge it to be a bit better than the Z7 from my experience so far. To counter that though, you do lose a stop in aperture for the same depth of field, so my usual f/8 on the Nikon becomes f/11 on this, so great IBIS is kind of a necessity when hand holding it.
The handling of dynamic range is a bit quirky compared to what I'm used to. Where the Nikon has a bit of latitude at both ends of the histogram (more in the shadows, but some in the highllights), this has none in the highlights. If there's any bunching on the right histogram at all, those areas are not coming back. However, recovery from the depths of the shadows goes really deep and comes back very clean too, so it just needs to be treated a bit differently when exposing for a high contrast shot.
So, on the whole I happy with it. It's capable of truly excellent results and has some great features, but I get the impression it's only going to suit specific use cases such as woodland photography or short hikes, with my Z7 still being the go-to camera for longer hikes and where more reach is required.
It's a shame m4/3 never really continued down the small size path. That's why I quit. A camera like a weatherproof Pen-F would be great. Considering new camera kit is such sweet torment.
Love the atmosphere in both of these and I admire your feeling for good composition and the well balanced processing!
Thank you. But you give too much credit to me: I just fired up Silver Efex plugin, flipped though filters until found good enough to me and applied it :D
@SteveMonks has written: @Fireplace33 has written: @SteveMonks has written: @Fireplace33 has written: @SteveMonks has written: @Fireplace33 has written: @SteveMonks has written:New Camera, Same Old Subjects
I've treated myself to a new (used) camera. So far, I've taken it out for a couple of walks in the local countryside to give it a trial run and see how it stacks up against the Z7.
The first outing was a trip to Brinscall woods around teatime. Here I did some side by side tests with the Z7, although they're not very scientific, but taken on a tripod with approximately equivalent focal length, apertures and base ISO. Just for fun, here's a pair of the side by side shots that I've attempted to match in Capture One, exported to 2048 pixels on the long edge and removed the EXIF. Which is which and what might the mystery camera be?
Well I'm guessing, the Nikon Z7 is the second shot, and the first shot is from a Fuji :-)
The first one has less chromatic abberation, visible if you compare the top right hand corner and look at the purple colour of the small branches against the bright sky. What lens was used here?Yep, you're right, the one on the left is some sort of Fuji and the Z7 is on the right. I guess the filename gave that away, I must cover my tracks better in future.
Indeed 😎
Quoted message:In both cases the highlights were blown, so I think what looks like chromatic abberation is actually just incorrectly recovered highlights around the blown edges.
Glad to hear that the Z7 wasn't producing that purple colour "under normal conditions" :-)
Quoted message:I've attached a 100% side by side of the images from C1P showing before and after adjustment (Fuji on the left again). BTW, only one of those images is 100%, the other has been scaled to match.
I guess the question is ,...
51 or 102 MP ?Well, it could have been 16, 24 or 26, but yeah, I went higher with the GFX100S. I did consider the GFX50SII, but there didn't seem to be a lot of benefit there over the Z7, so I figured if I'm going to splurge on a medium format camera it would only be worth it if I went for the higher res sensor.
For now I've only got the 35-70 lens, but the results are impressive at full res. Downscaled to internet sharing sizes there doesn't seem to be a lot in it, maybe subtle differences in colour differentiation and tonality, but it's pretty negligible, at least at base ISO. Of course I am comparing a top end 24-70 f/2.8S lens to what is in effect the kit lens on this system.
Congrats on the new camera :-)
It sounds very good and those results look good too.
How is the size and weight compared to your Z7 system ?Thanks.
The body is slightly bigger than the Z7, but not by much at all. The 35-70 f/4.5-5.6 lens is quite a bit smaller and lighter than the 24-70 f/2.8S, but then it is the most compact zoom in the system and only equates to a 28-55, so it doesn't have the reach of the 24-70 and is a bit limiting as it stands. In terms of weight, configured as shown in the picture, the Fuji is lighter than the Nikon at 1430g vs 1670g, but that is mostly lens in the case of the Nikon and mostly camera in the case of the Fuji (both of those are with L-brackets fitted).
To make the system more useful, I will need to add at least one more lens. I keep looking at the 100-200, which would cover 80-160(ish), giving me enough reach for most situations and wondering if that would satisfy my needs? But that still leaves a sizeable gap between that and the 35-70. Fuji do make a lens for that though, in the shape of the 45-100, but then I'd be carrying three lenses, two of which are pretty heavy, which starts to undermine the relatively compact form factor.
It's an interesting camera though, it feels good in the hand and is reasonably snappy considering the size of the files it's chucking around (lossless 16 bit raws come to around 130MB). The IBIS is excellent too, it's no E-M1 MKII in that department, but I'd judge it to be a bit better than the Z7 from my experience so far. To counter that though, you do lose a stop in aperture for the same depth of field, so my usual f/8 on the Nikon becomes f/11 on this, so great IBIS is kind of a necessity when hand holding it.
The handling of dynamic range is a bit quirky compared to what I'm used to. Where the Nikon has a bit of latitude at both ends of the histogram (more in the shadows, but some in the highllights), this has none in the highlights. If there's any bunching on the right histogram at all, those areas are not coming back. However, recovery from the depths of the shadows goes really deep and comes back very clean too, so it just needs to be treated a bit differently when exposing for a high contrast shot.
So, on the whole I happy with it. It's capable of truly excellent results and has some great features, but I get the impression it's only going to suit specific use cases such as woodland photography or short hikes, with my Z7 still being the go-to camera for longer hikes and where more reach is required.
It's a shame m4/3 never really continued down the small size path. That's why I quit. A camera like a weatherproof Pen-F would be great. Considering new camera kit is such sweet torment.
Yeah, a weather resistant Pen-F would be pretty sweet, as long as it had the focusing system of the E-M1 MKII, which was pretty great once they sorted out the firmware.
I know the scanning part might not be of interest to many, but it's really fascinating to me, because I use a number of different Noritsu lenses (mostly from their range of minilabs) on my camera. Do you happen to know which machine it was scanned with or are you sending it to some place via an online service? Some of these film scanner/processing lenses are quite impressive as taking lenses in my opinion:
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These are all superb. I love the colours.