Over here, manual gearboxes are still in the majority, so almost everyone learns to drive manuals. It's usually some elderly person learning to drive late in life who learns automatic only. I guess with the increasing shift to EVs, automatic car learners will be on the increase. My daughter has just received her provisional driving licence and will be able to start lessons soon. I wonder what she will opt for.
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I remember my first proper camera. I never could find the automatic exposure modes on that Zenith E....
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My problem with 'semi-auto' is that the automation is trying to do the wrong thing.
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I gave my D810 to my son. He was taking really nice images with a phone and a little 1/2.4" compact I'd given him. Really, he knew nothing about photography except how to see a shot and compose it, which is probably the most important part. So when I found I wasn't using the D810 much I asked him if he wanted it. He was very enthusiastic. So, I started him out in M + auto ISO. Explained what exposure was and why he wanted to maximise it. Went through DOF and motion blur, how to choose f-number and shutter speed and what to do if the ISO indicator went below 64. About an hour's tuition. After a week I asked him how it was going. He said he was taking better pictures than with the phone and compact, and he was right.
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We start sounding so much like DPR...
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The 'self-proclaimed expert' bit always makes me laugh. I haven't see anyone here at all proclaim themselves to be an expert.
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Thats a great story. my daughter had a similar situation. when she was in Primary school 10 years old she couldn't figure out a maths question and its been to long for me to remember anything from school so i showed her a simple way and she continued on that path. when she got the Highschool 12 yold a maths teacher told her the way she was solving a problem was incorrect and wouldn't work for all situations, she blatantly told him he was incorrect ( she was dux at her primary school ) so he went home and tried to prove her theory wrong that night came back the next day and conceded the formula she was using couldn't be faulted and that he had never seen anything like it before.
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In Australia we are experiencing the same problem with maths and science teachers.
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I did kick over the traces a bit with the egg when I'd tried everything obvious
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There are plenty of images, creators, and critics in this instantly and globally connected world in which we now find ourselves, perhaps an overabundance in one or more areas; depending on your personal viewpoint at any given time. I find art where others may not, just as others find art where I may not.
Personally, I find a great deal of artistic expression in the work of photojournalists. Photojournalism is what drew me into photography. Like everyone else; my personal interests greatly influence my appreciation of various artists, genres, and creative works. I find artistic qualities and creative appeal in many commercial and illustrative works as well.
Art is a personal expression and any experience of that expression is equally personal. Where we find art is where we find a personal emotional connection between the expression and ourselves.
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People have different ways to approach learning. Some like to dive directly into the full complexity. Some will devise a methodology to logically step through all aspects of what is to be learned. Some will just start experimenting.
All can be successful strategies.
Full manual is a mode worth exploring, but how one gets there depends entirely on how one likes to learn.
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It may not be completely apt, but is feeding questions to ChatGPT a good way to learn how to write?
That said, I agree about learning styles being disjoint.
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Today, tomorrow, or next year? I don't think this is a particularly good analogy.
I much prefer the word different to disjoint. My youngest is very logical and methodical in how he approaches things. Me? Not so much.
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Same here. My kids learned to drive stick too, though they both opted for automatics when the time came to buy their own cars (they also prefer taking pictures with their phones). I just bought my first automatic in about 40 years and I can’t say I’m all that happy about it.
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Unfortunately (in regard to this thread), yes :-(
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The op's original thread had nothing to do with exposure or P mode. Please do not hijack this thread. I think you are afraid to start your own thread about exposure because people will tell you your definition is wrong.
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Several times in the Beginners forum at DPR I pointed out that the answers were far too technical and complex to be of any use to those asking the question. The proof in that is seeing several "experts" arguing with each other about minute differences each trying to outdo the rest. If "experts" can't agree on a point , how is a beginner going to learn ?
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If you go look in the Beginners Questions forum you will see I did start a thread explaining why images look noisy in which I mention exposure*
* exposure - amount of light striking the sensor per unit area while the shutter is open.
