The arguments thread

I disagree that moderation was a huge problem on DPR (member since 2016). I did participate in many different forums.

I've been there since about 2002 while there was no moderation at all, only Phil Askey who deleted a bunch of posts if he got agitated. Members used to debate and solve problems on their own. Then Amazon took over and introduced moderators. The site went downhill fast after that.

I did participate in many different forums as well. Never found one as good as the un-moderated version of DPReview. YYMV.

You can you know what with your positive attitude and general happiness here. Noone asked you but you came anyways. 🤡

Can we have just one punching bag?
To be fair, Amazon is untouchable in this regard, and so first guilty person has it all. Risk of the business I guess. Too bad. When they see one hanging, they will take care and precautions.

Reminds me on"Bill burr's bit" on shotguns.
"You just turn and Whuuaaau! That's it.
Anything that was there, ain't there anymore. Trust me...
...And these people here saw what you did there, so you ain't gonna have problem here either." 😂

That is not a reasonable argument to defend, really. "This harmful equipment never hurt me, so why do you care about safety and broken safety by the manufacturer" type of claim. Cannot stand any scrutiny or benchmarking against reality.

I marvel about the way you support this forum and about the agreement with you on most of the topics, while you simultaneously can produce such a failure gem. It absolutely must be wrong worldview on my side. No assumptions though. All is good. Fingers crossed.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being wrong. And I won't hold that against you.

@Flashlight

Amazon acquired dpreview in May 2007
Moderators were first introduced in October 2012

If you say so, I wouldn't know. All I know, or think, is that the site went downhill after moderators were introduced.

From what I have seen here, your posts are very measured and non-partisan - it might explain why you never got into trouble!

I am a member at DPreview since 2001. Never got banned - but had 1 thread deleted, 1 thread moved. These I knew about as the mods contacted me.
More disturbing was when I recently looked for one of my threads about lens testing methodologies and found to my dismay it had been locked. I didn't check whether any other threads had been locked, it seemed so unexpected I was a bit shocked.

I did watch other people's threads or posts disappearing or being locked - my opinion was that there wasn't enough justification for those actions.

I remember not seeing Bobn2 for a long while and later we learnt he had been banned.
Thom Hogan disappeared after his threads or posts got deleted - although later on realized that Thom was still around, and messaged people privately. If someone like Thom - who is also very measured in his posts - gets his posts removed, that tells you something about DPR.

I do remember that DPreview had no moderation for a long time, and it was fine. I suspect Amazon could not allow certain discussions or points of view due to corporate reasons and introduced moderation.

Policing got to my mind seconds after. "Well, I have never been shot for lack of turn signal, so I don't know what the fuss is about."
But we could argue about details endlessly.

Yes, I did not ask for parroting DPReviews approach, I am super glad it turned that way, and even though it has no importance or weight, I am happy with your efforts, opinions and conduct.
That's a nonissue.
Things are being discussed, solved, upgraded and enhanced, agreed upon and such.
Can we wait a second for things to settle? Sure we can.

Best regards.
Sorry for having last word. Not an intention, I'm outta here and quiet. 😅

Reminds me of a lady who called the police about her neighbour exposing himself to her. When the police arrived and looked through the window, they couldn't see anything she spoke of...
"No" she exclaimed "you have to get on top of the dresser and use the binoculars to see him doing it"