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Some thoughts on the new facilites.

bobn2
Nov. 2, 2023
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    simplejoy
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 1:04 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 1:04 p.m.
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    @Maoby has written:

    This "Share & Discuss" in the center of the photo is destructive and unsightly in my eyes.

    Do you dislike the idea of something being there as a whole or the specific thing? I would prefer the Forum being there (at least for now), because it's not well enough represented by the navigation alone. But of course that does change, once there are more relevant sections...

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    Maoby
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 1:25 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 1:25 p.m.
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    I like the 500px interface 500px.com/

    500px.jpeg

    500px.jpeg

    JPG, 2.1 MB, uploaded by Maoby on Nov. 6, 2023.

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    Sagittarius
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 2:34 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 2:34 p.m.
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    If we are using somebody's picture, I think a credit should be given to the photographer.

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    davidwien
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 2:40 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 2:40 p.m.
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    @AlanSh has written:

    I've updated the landing site to closely follow SJ's idea. What do you think? dprenewed.com

    Alan

    I think this is good. Let’s adopt it and move on to the other problems. It can be modified later if necessary.

    David

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    simplejoy
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 2:54 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 2:54 p.m.
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    I’m starting to think it‘s actually better if I stay out of this.

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    AlanSh
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 2:58 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 2:58 p.m.
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    No don't do that. I like your ideas.

    Alan

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    AlanSh
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 2:58 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 2:58 p.m.
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    @Maoby has written:

    This "Share & Discuss" in the center of the photo is destructive and unsightly in my eyes

    I can move it around. Maybe top left?

    Alan

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    AlanSh
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 2:59 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 2:59 p.m.
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    @Sagittarius has written:

    If we are using somebody's picture, I think a credit should be given to the photographer.

    Yes, apologies. I will add something.

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    Sagittarius
    Members 727 posts
    Nov. 6, 2023, 3:01 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 3:01 p.m.
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    @AlanSh has written:
    @Sagittarius has written:

    If we are using somebody's picture, I think a credit should be given to the photographer.

    Yes, apologies. I will add something.

    No apology needed. I just mentioned this for the future design.

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    NCV
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 3:21 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 3:21 p.m.
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    @AlanSh has written:

    I've updated the landing site to closely follow SJ's idea. What do you think? dprenewed.com

    Alan

    Starting to look very good. I think the menu at the top need to be much, much, more in evidence. I did not see it at first glance, and had to hunt it out.

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    Maoby
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 4:57 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 4:57 p.m.
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    @AlanSh has written:

    I can move it around. Maybe top left?

    The advice of a web designer would be very useful.

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    AlanSh
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 5:06 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 5:06 p.m.
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    Umm - that is one of my roles in life.

    @Maoby has written:

    The advice of a web designer would be very useful.

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    AlanSh
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 5:45 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 5:45 p.m.
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    Slight updates to the landing site home page - that will do for today. I'll add in a link to it from the forum.

    Alan

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    minniev
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 7:30 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 7:30 p.m.
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    @AlanSh has written:

    I've updated the landing site to closely follow SJ's idea. What do you think? dprenewed.com

    Alan

    This is a good start. I think it should be implemented as soon as possible, with the understanding that as we/you get new/improved ideas, things can be modified. It's important to start somewhere.

    Mike and SJ and others are right in that this site has survived thus far based on image-centric discussions. It is easy to see that just by looking at the active threads. The active threads here are not about gear or even technical questions, probably because there are other places where those things are featured. We need a niche. One niche that is not taken by other sites is that of discussions about the images that normal, average photography buffs take, no matter what equipment they take them with.

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    bobn2
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 7:36 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 7:36 p.m.
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    @simplejoy has written:
    @bobn2 has written:

    a landing page has to go somewhere,

    Yes, but it doesn't necessarily have to go to articles... it can go to forum content as well for the time being. I think that's what most people here might have in mind. Make the site look more interesting and attractive as soon as possible in order to hopefully gain a couple more members for the moment when the first content is ready... perhaps I'm wrong, but that's what I thought might be possible without much programming or resources needed.

    I should be clear, I'm not in any way opposed to a new landing page. It would be good, but I seriously don't think it will make a difference. I don't think that the decline in activity here has anything to do with the landing page - it has to do with the failure to die of DPReview. This was originally conceived as a forum to replace DPReview forums, which is a role no longer needed, except to some people who find that the particular characteristics of DP Review make it not the place for them, or not the only place for them.
    The question here is how this site provides a service for photographers that is not already offered. There is answer in terms of editorial content which is well grounded in real expertise, which isn't so easy to find. Another answer is that provides the media capabilities that other sites don't provide. The second is what this thread was intended to address.

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    bobn2
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 7:38 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 7:38 p.m.
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    @minniev has written:

    Mike and SJ and others are right in that this site has survived thus far based on image-centric discussions. It is easy to see that just by looking at the active threads. The active threads here are not about gear or even technical questions, probably because there are other places where those things are featured. We need a niche. One niche that is not taken by other sites is that of discussions about the images that normal, average photography buffs take, no matter what equipment they take them with.

    I fully agree. That's why I'm proposing that we need really good image display facilities.

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    bobn2
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 7:41 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 7:41 p.m.
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    @bgreg has written:

    Oh come on...You can't be that sensitive over this...combined with the foot dragging

    I find myself a little bit sensitive about the use of the term 'foot dragging'.

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    davidwien
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    Nov. 6, 2023, 8:31 p.m. Nov. 6, 2023, 8:31 p.m.
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    I dont think the term foot dragging is appropriate. What is worrying many of us, however, is the length of time it is taking to make the proposed changes that we all agree are a good idea, and in the meantime, impetus, active membership and enthusiasm seem to be dissipating unnecessarily by the week.

    David

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