Bob explained very clearly the correct photographic meaning for just "exposure" earlier in this very thread 🙂
He also explained the meaning of "exposure value".
Bob explained very clearly the correct photographic meaning for just "exposure" earlier in this very thread 🙂
He also explained the meaning of "exposure value".
@GreatBustard has written:With regards to total light, photons, or, equivalently, lumen seconds (luminous energy). With regards to exposure, photons/area, or, equivalently, lux seconds (luminous energy / area).
Your answer based on this image 😊
Wear a belt and a little less mousse, maybe? 😆
@DannoLeftForums has written: @PeteW has written:This scene has quite good brightness but I feel that the blacks and shadows could have been lifted a little.
Whether anyone feels blacks or shadows in an image they are viewing on their monitor [need] lifting or not will depend to some extent on the brightness the monitor is set to.
A given image viewed on a screen [set] to 80 cd/m2 might look a little dark compared to it being viewed on a screen [set] to 190 cd/m2 where it might look OK.
I'm wondering how Pete knew what the scene brightness was ...
I determined it using the exposure triangle.
@xpatUSA has written: @DannoLeftForums has written: @PeteW has written:This scene has quite good brightness but I feel that the blacks and shadows could have been lifted a little.
Whether anyone feels blacks or shadows in an image they are viewing on their monitor [need] lifting or not will depend to some extent on the brightness the monitor is set to.
A given image viewed on a screen [set] to 80 cd/m2 might look a little dark compared to it being viewed on a screen [set] to 190 cd/m2 where it might look OK.
I'm wondering how Pete knew what the scene brightness was ...
I determined it using the exposure triangle.

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@DonaldB has written: @SrMi has written:Exposure determines how much light hits the sensor. That depends on shutter speed, aperture, and scene light.
Exposure doesnt include scene light. exposure is shutter, and t stop.
No, those are exposure settings in the camera.
It was established earlier that for DonaldB, exposure in his thread title means the camera settings.
@DonaldB has written: @DannoLeftForums has written:So you are saying that the word exposure in your thread title means the camera settings?
Yes, which my thread title is probably a little vague now looking at it 😉
In the future people will now know what you really mean when you use the word exposure in your posts.
@DonaldB has written: @SrMi has written:Exposure determines how much light hits the sensor. That depends on shutter speed, aperture, and scene light.
Exposure doesnt include scene light. exposure is shutter, and t stop.
No, those are exposure settings in the camera.
I can agree on that. so whats the value of using the word "exposure"
@Quarkcharmed has written: @DonaldB has written: @SrMi has written:Exposure determines how much light hits the sensor. That depends on shutter speed, aperture, and scene light.
Exposure doesnt include scene light. exposure is shutter, and t stop.
No, those are exposure settings in the camera.
It was established earlier that for DonaldB, exposure in his thread title means the camera settings.
@DannoLeftForums has written: @DonaldB has written: @DannoLeftForums has written:So you are saying that the word exposure in your thread title means the camera settings?
Yes, which my thread title is probably a little vague now looking at it 😉
In the future people will now know what you really mean when you use the word exposure in your posts.
Is there any value in using the word "exposure" how does it relate to taking an image ?
Is there any value in using the word "exposure" how does it relate to taking an image ?
Between dpreview and here there are countless threads discussing and answering those very questions.
@DonaldB has written:Is there any value in using the word "exposure" how does it relate to taking an image ?
Between dpreview and here there are countless threads discussing and answering those very questions.
i have my answer from sony site 😁😁😁 so im back to my original thread title. but i do get where you all are coming from.
Exposure is used very loosely
@DannoLeftForums has written: @DonaldB has written:Is there any value in using the word "exposure" how does it relate to taking an image ?
Between dpreview and here there are countless threads discussing and answering those very questions.
i have my answer from sony site 😁😁😁 so im back to my original thread title. but i do get where you all are coming from.
Exposure is used very loosely
That article is not correct because it says
"The amount of light is determined by the aperture and shutter speed."
which is incorrect as I showed in my practical example earlier this thread where the exposure* was increased after the scene luminance was increased for a given set of camera settings - aperture, shutter speed and ISO.
The amount of light striking the sensor is determined by:
* exposure - amount of light that struck the sensor per unit area while the shutter was open
i have my answer from sony site
"Exposure is the amount of light coming into the camera when shooting a photograph."
Into the camera? Seriously?
"The amount of light is determined by the aperture and shutter speed."
Aperture and shutter speed don't determine the "amount" of light, they determine the reduction of the "amount" of light.
they determine the reduction of the "amount" of light.
speed booster 😁
Is there any value in using the word "exposure" how does it relate to taking an image ?
Is there some reason you can't simply accept the definitions?
Exposure = illuminance * time
Exposure value = log(base 2) f-number ^2 / shutter period
Exposure is the amount of light that hits the sensor per unit of area. This is useful for many things.
Exposure value is a camera setting. This is useful for many things.
@DonaldB has written:Is there any value in using the word "exposure" how does it relate to taking an image ?
Is there some reason you can't simply accept the definitions?
Exposure = illuminance * time
Exposure value = log(base 2) f-number ^2 / shutter periodExposure is the amount of light that hits the sensor per unit of area. This is useful for many things.
Exposure value is a camera setting. This is useful for many things.
www.canon.co.uk/get-inspired/tips-and-techniques/how-to-control-exposure/
now back to the thread title.
Exposure is the amount of light that hits the sensor per unit of area. This is useful for many things. 🙄🥱
@LeeJay has written: @DonaldB has written:Is there any value in using the word "exposure" how does it relate to taking an image ?
Is there some reason you can't simply accept the definitions?
Exposure = illuminance * time
Exposure value = log(base 2) f-number ^2 / shutter periodExposure is the amount of light that hits the sensor per unit of area. This is useful for many things.
Exposure value is a camera setting. This is useful for many things.www.canon.co.uk/get-inspired/tips-and-techniques/how-to-control-exposure/
That article also contains numerous errors.
One example, they say
"The three key factors in our exposure – aperture, shutter speed and ISO – work in combination, so when you change one factor you need to balance it out with another if you want to maintain the same exposure,..."
You do not need to balance the 3 to maintain the same exposure* for a given scene lighting.
You do need to balance the 3 to maintain the same image lightness, not exposure*, for a given scene lighting as I have shown in my The Exposure Triangle Is Misleading And Unnecessary thread.
I don't consider ISO at all when setting exposure* and where Auto ISO lands the ISO setting is irrelevant as long as important highlights are not clipped.
I set the image lightness in post.
Setting the exposure* for nice looking sooc jpegs is different to setting exposure* for maximising the quality of the raw data, especially in low light situations.
* exposure - amount of light that struck the sensor per unit area while the shutter was open
@DonaldB has written: @LeeJay has written: @DonaldB has written:Is there any value in using the word "exposure" how does it relate to taking an image ?
Is there some reason you can't simply accept the definitions?
Exposure = illuminance * time
Exposure value = log(base 2) f-number ^2 / shutter periodExposure is the amount of light that hits the sensor per unit of area. This is useful for many things.
Exposure value is a camera setting. This is useful for many things.www.canon.co.uk/get-inspired/tips-and-techniques/how-to-control-exposure/
That article also contains numerous errors.
One example, they say
"The three key factors in our exposure – aperture, shutter speed and ISO – work in combination, so when you change one factor you need to balance it out with another if you want to maintain the same exposure,..."
You do not need to balance the 3 to maintain the same exposure* for a given scene lighting.
You do need to balance the 3 to maintain the same image lightness, not exposure*, for a given scene lighting as I have shown in my The Exposure Triangle Is Misleading And Unnecessary thread.
I don't consider ISO at all when setting exposure* and where Auto ISO lands the ISO setting is irrelevant as long as important highlights are not clipped.
I set the image lightness in post.
Setting the exposure* for nice looking sooc jpegs is different to setting exposure* for maximising the quality of the raw data, especially in low light situations.
* exposure - amount of light that struck the sensor per unit area while the shutter was open
i guess its different strokes for different folks. my thread didnt get very far as everyone has a different idea what the meaning of Exposure is. 🤔
@DannoLeftForums has written: @DonaldB has written: @LeeJay has written: @DonaldB has written:Is there any value in using the word "exposure" how does it relate to taking an image ?
Is there some reason you can't simply accept the definitions?
Exposure = illuminance * time
Exposure value = log(base 2) f-number ^2 / shutter periodExposure is the amount of light that hits the sensor per unit of area. This is useful for many things.
Exposure value is a camera setting. This is useful for many things.www.canon.co.uk/get-inspired/tips-and-techniques/how-to-control-exposure/
That article also contains numerous errors.
One example, they say
"The three key factors in our exposure – aperture, shutter speed and ISO – work in combination, so when you change one factor you need to balance it out with another if you want to maintain the same exposure,..."
You do not need to balance the 3 to maintain the same exposure* for a given scene lighting.
You do need to balance the 3 to maintain the same image lightness, not exposure*, for a given scene lighting as I have shown in my The Exposure Triangle Is Misleading And Unnecessary thread.
I don't consider ISO at all when setting exposure* and where Auto ISO lands the ISO setting is irrelevant as long as important highlights are not clipped.
I set the image lightness in post.
Setting the exposure* for nice looking sooc jpegs is different to setting exposure* for maximising the quality of the raw data, especially in low light situations.
* exposure - amount of light that struck the sensor per unit area while the shutter was open
i guess its different strokes for different folks. my thread didnt get very far as everyone has a different idea what the meaning of Exposure is. 🤔
That is exactly why I include the definition of exposure* and optimal exposure** in my posts so that there is no confusion about what I mean when I use the terms.
Now, whether people choose to agree with them or not is their choice to make but at least they know what I mean.
In this thread you had your own definition of exposure - being the camera settings - when everyone else that I saw who replied was talking about the correct definition of exposure.
It's when people hide behind various wishy-washy meanings of terms and decline to define the terms as they use them that they can get themselves into strife.
It's when article authors, forum members and others confuse or use the terms "exposure" and "image lightness" interchangeably as if they mean the same thing when they clearly do not that they leave themselves vulnerable to being rightfully challenged by those who choose to use the terms correctly.
* exposure - amount of light that struck the sensor per unit area while the shutter was open
** optimal exposure - the maximum exposure* within dof and motion blur requirements without clipping important highlights.