• Members 221 posts
    April 16, 2023, 3:25 a.m.

    Couldn't hurt. They're just people like everyone else.

    It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.William L. Watkinson

  • Members 2365 posts
    April 16, 2023, 3:36 a.m.

    Now the fun begins students.

    what is the best surface to use if your in the bush to set the camera EV off shutter/aperture and iso .

    if you want to make it more fun. post the surface and use bobs program to confirm your findings.

  • Members 4254 posts
    April 16, 2023, 3:41 a.m.

    But it's the engineers who really know what they are talking about and how things work properly, not the marketing people. Marketing people tend to dumb things down, even to the point where it is not technically correct, for 'mum and dad' photographers.

  • Members 4254 posts
    April 16, 2023, 3:43 a.m.

    I'll fix it for you 🙂

  • Members 221 posts
    April 16, 2023, 3:45 a.m.

    First, please define fun and for whom.

    Thanks

  • Members 221 posts
    April 16, 2023, 3:47 a.m.

    One vote for curse the darkness then?

  • Members 1738 posts
    April 16, 2023, 3:47 a.m.

    The raw data that I showed wasn't processed into a monochromatic image. The raw data is a monochromatic image. Most raw files are TIFFs. And there is only one plane in the raw image data.

  • Members 4254 posts
    April 16, 2023, 3:48 a.m.

    Nope, just my experience.

  • Members 173 posts
    April 16, 2023, 3:53 a.m.

    Good marketers know exactly what they are talking about. Marketing is about selling stuff, not being 'engineering accurate'.

  • Members 216 posts
    April 16, 2023, 3:53 a.m.

    It is not a surface per say but where I want my white point to fall within the raw file, that white point may not even be in the scene. If that white point does not fall within the FOV I may even select an exposure that is even larger

  • Members 2365 posts
    April 16, 2023, 3:59 a.m.

    wrong. next answer 😁

  • Members 4254 posts
    April 16, 2023, 4:03 a.m.

    I'm sure there are some good marketers who most probably are also ex-engineers but if you took a random sample of say 1000+ marketers from camera and lens manufacturers around the world and asked them what is "exposure", my experience tells me the majority would describe exposure with words to the effect of exposure being how light or dark an image is which is not technically correct.

    If you also asked them to explain the relationship between ISO and noise, again my experience tells me most would describe it with words to the effect that the higher the ISO the more noise will be in the image which again is not technically correct.

  • Members 2365 posts
    April 16, 2023, 4:04 a.m.

    taking the image. this is basic 101 EV setting. not ice i didnt say "exposure" because we are in 2023 😁

  • Members 221 posts
    April 16, 2023, 4:07 a.m.

    Right. TIFF is a file structure which can contain either processed or raw data. A TIFF may also contain JPEG images.

    Any raw image format contains recorded data of a scene which can be processed into a viewable or printable image of the original scene.

  • Members 2365 posts
    April 16, 2023, 4:14 a.m.

    seriously, i failed English at school, my daughter tells me all the time " Dad you are so hopeless at English" 😁 it was the motivating factor for her to become Dux of her schools. and im taking all the credit 😎

  • Members 221 posts
    April 16, 2023, 4:15 a.m.

    Well... that may have provided the information I was seeking.

  • Members 2365 posts
    April 16, 2023, 4:19 a.m.

    if you have the answer post the third letter of the surface

  • Members 4254 posts
    April 16, 2023, 4:20 a.m.

    For maximising the quality of the raw data you need to maximise the exposure* within your DOF and blur constraints without clipping important highlights. In that case ISO is irrelevant for me, as long as important highlights are not clipped because I set the final image lightness in post, not in camera.

    If I am ETTR'ing I lock in base ISO, all other times ISO is set to Auto for the above reason.

    * exposure - amount of light striking the sensor per unit area while the shutter is open
    ** optimal exposure - the maximum exposure* within dof and motion blur requirements without clipping important highlights.
    *** under exposed - more exposure* could have been added with the DOF and blur constraints still being met without clipping important highlights.