Wouldn't there be just too many sub-forums if we started listing every software system out there? There are other plug-in collections besides Nik. Topaz is another. On1 has started selling its plug-ins separately from the standalone software. I don't think oem software has been mentioned. Would discussion of those be restricted to the camera forums? And even software packaged with computers like Photos has editing functionality. We also have software apps for smart phones. There are categories of software as well: raw conversion, sharpening, noise reduction, black and white conversion, AI, analogue, HDR, etc. How do we deal with that? Do we have sub forums for all the uses of software? It's a good discussion.