In the Poll today, we have 5 yeahs against 8 nays - a sample size of 13.
That's a poll margin of error of +/- 26% at 95% confidence and our population of 4000.
5/13 = 38%, 8/13 = 62% ,,, so, at 95% confidence, the yeahs could still easily beat the nays.
That is to say that if the entire population of 4000 voted then there's a chance that the result could be 64% yeah and 36% nay.
Recalculate that for two more realistic populations - 40 and 100; I think our active users count is somewhere between those numbers.
And I have the impression that it's closer to 40 than 100. 🤔
It seems non-intuitive, but even with a small population of only 40, the margin of error still remains high (at about 23%) because we have such a small sample size of only 13.
So that's another good reason to encourage more members to post and vote here ;-)
I cannot vote.
In my opinion, none of the three options is valid at the moment.
I'd love to have an explanation for the 3000+ that have registered and gone away. Are these real people, or bots?
David
Real. Initial inrush when DPR promised to shut down. As they continued operation, most people returned there.
Hi,
Yes. So many signed up here and then forgot all about it when DPR did not complete the shutdown. There were about 40 folks from the Medium Format forum who came here, and I am the only one left, I think.
Stan
Please explain - I believe I can edit poll if necessary
Today, our sample size is 14, 36% Y, 64% N. I'll set the population to 50 active members.
At 95% confidence level, margin of error is now +/- 21.55% for the above.
my source: www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm
Yes or no are far too simplistic answers, only people who have a prepared answer in advance can answer yes or no.
You know the expression "give the runner a chance" How can we assess such a radical change in the space of a few hours?
You have to give the minimon a few weeks' time, to fully understand the changes and be able to assimilate them or not.
And unfortunately, the “I haven't watched it” option is useless.
Ultimately, your survey is far too rushed to be of any value.
Marc, you are too harsh. For initial impression, such poll is pretty usable - Yes means "Looks like I can get used to it", No means "What the hell" and then remains "I don't care". That's why I would have voted for both Yes and No - WTH they have done!, but well, I can manage :)
Yes or no are far too simplistic answers
And unfortunately, the “I haven't watched it” option is useless.
Ultimately, your survey is far too rushed to be of any value.
I've ended the poll - that was just too much, Marc.
I dont think many are left at DPR they have moved to FM where they can speek freely, its a dictatorship over there now.
Also at discuss.pixls.us watch out for watch out for @paperdigits
After the "update" to the new format. I just do not find DPR of much interest anymore. Wading through huge threads is a chore I can do without.
agree totally
Not the only one, Stan :-)
This forum acts as a good example of the difficulties that are being experienced over on DPR. Lightly used threads are perfectly ok to navigate. But if there are pages and and pages of replies, especially if there are sub threads going on it becomes a nightmare. How do I find my post in a little sub thread half way through a 20 page thread when I return to it a couple of days later? How do I know if someone replied to my last post without doomscrolling for hours? It becomes a real struggle and I would need to be highly motivated to press on.
I find it baffling that DPR management didn't figure this out when they went looking for a platform. I also find it baffling that they pretended to consult the readership about new forums, and when loads of people complained about the loss of threaded view, they just said "Ah, yes, we understand this is important to some of you. Something we need to consider...except we can't because we opened this "consultation" after we had done most of the work and we are committed now. Tough."
I just noticed that Thom Hogan has an article about DPR on his site. Makes for painful reading to DPR management, I would think - if they care.
I'm really glad that DPR was rescued, it is an iconic site in the digital photography field but I feel that as time passes, the site will seem less and less important partly because of the direction they are headed.
