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My Little History of DSLR/ML

Maoby
April 24, 2023
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    Maoby
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    May 1, 2024, 11:58 a.m. May 1, 2024, 11:58 a.m.
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    Tribute to all the first FF !

    I well remember in 2002 the arrival of Canon's first FF with its impressive 11.1MP.
    What a beautiful machine for its time, but this $8,000 US made it inaccessible for the vast majority of us.

    Then eleven years later, another pleasant surprise, this time with the arrival of the first FF ML
    With a more reasonable price of $1,700 US, we all know the rest...

    For fun, I made a comparison between the two stars from another era.
    I share my results with you here www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720316553723/

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    Canon EOS-1Ds (2002) / Sony Alpha 7 (2013)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Canon EOS-1Ds (2002)
    11.1 MP FF sensor ( 4064 x 2704 )
    First Canon Digital FF
    Price $8,000 US
    Photos taken with Canon EF 85 f/1.8
    (multiplication factor of 1.0)
    100-1250 (50-1250) ISO


    Sony Alpha 7 (2013)
    24 MP FF sensor (6000 x 4000)
    First ML FF
    Price: $1,700 US
    Photos taken with the Sony FE 85mm F1.8
    (multiplication factor 1.0)
    100-6400 (50-25600)

    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720316553723/
    Feel free to give me your comments

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    DonaldB
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    May 2, 2024, 6:32 a.m. May 2, 2024, 6:32 a.m.
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    @Maoby has written:

    Tribute to all the first FF !

    I well remember in 2002 the arrival of Canon's first FF with its impressive 11.1MP.
    What a beautiful machine for its time, but this $8,000 US made it inaccessible for the vast majority of us.

    Then eleven years later, another pleasant surprise, this time with the arrival of the first FF ML
    With a more reasonable price of $1,700 US, we all know the rest...

    For fun, I made a comparison between the two stars from another era.
    I share my results with you here www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720316553723/

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/53684462864_a4d601f9bd_b.jpg
    Canon EOS-1Ds (2002) / Sony Alpha 7 (2013)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Canon EOS-1Ds (2002)
    11.1 MP FF sensor ( 4064 x 2704 )
    First Canon Digital FF
    Price $8,000 US
    Photos taken with Canon EF 85 f/1.8
    (multiplication factor of 1.0)
    100-1250 (50-1250) ISO


    Sony Alpha 7 (2013)
    24 MP FF sensor (6000 x 4000)
    First ML FF
    Price: $1,700 US
    Photos taken with the Sony FE 85mm F1.8
    (multiplication factor 1.0)
    100-6400 (50-25600)

    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720316553723/
    Feel free to give me your comments

    the canon is holding more DR than the sony

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    Maoby
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    May 18, 2024, 1:05 p.m. May 18, 2024, 1:05 p.m.
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    Sixty comparisons

    I currently have 60 comparisons involving Kodak DCS cameras.
    Right here: www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/page2
    From the 1991 Kodak DCS100 to the 2003 Kodak DCS Pro 14n

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    Kodak DCS 100 (1991)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Kodak DCS 460 (1995)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Kodak DCS 520 (1998)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Kodak DCS 720x (2001)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Kodak DCS Pro 14n (2003)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Maoby
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    May 23, 2024, 11:17 a.m. May 23, 2024, 11:17 a.m.
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    Here's a comparison I like, between the first Sony ML FF the Alpha 7 and the Fujifilm X-T5 APS-C

    To see the full comparison, click here: www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720317205548/

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    Sony Alpha 7 (2013) / Fujifilm X-T5 (2022)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Sony Alpha 7 (2013)
    24 MP FF sensor (6000 x 4000)
    First ML FF
    Price: $1,700.00 US
    Photos taken with the Sony FE 85mm F1.8
    (multiplication factor 1.0)
    100-6400 (50-25600)

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    Fujifilm X-T5 (2022)
    40 MP APS-C sensor (7728 x 5152)
    Price: $1,699.00 US
    Photos taken with the Fujifilm XF 56mm f/1.2 R WR
    (multiplication factor of 1.5)
    125-12800 ISO (Ex 64-51200)

    I'm impressed with the Sony here, which delivers excellent photos with its small 85mm
    And it takes up less space than my X-T5 with the 56mm f/1.2.

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    N°08 Sony a7 (2013)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    N°08 Fujifilm X-T5 (2022)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720317205548/

    I'd love to hear your comments if possible. 😎

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    Maoby
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    June 19, 2024, 12:52 p.m. June 19, 2024, 12:52 p.m.
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    Canon's first 6MP digital SLR

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    Canon EOS D60 (2002)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Canon EOS D60 (2002)
    6,300,000-pixel Cmos sensor ( 3072 x 2048 )
    APS-C (factor x 1.6)
    Storage: CompactFlash
    Price: $2,200 US

    The Canon EOS D60 (2002) is Canon's first 6MP SLR.
    Here are a few comparisons with its main competitors at the time, Nikon D100, Fujifilm S2 Pro and Sigma SD-9, all released in 2002
    In 2003, Canon unveiled its replacement, the EOS-10D, as well as the first Rebel for under $1,000. US
    Owners of the D60 must have felt a little frustrated

    Canon EOS D30 (2000) / Canon EOS D60 (2002)
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72157674364549453/

    Canon EOS D60 (2002) / Nikon D100 (2002)
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72157669477292166/

    Canon EOS D60 (2002) / Fujifilm S2 Pro (2002)
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72157715726033027/

    Canon EOS D60 (2002) / Sigma SD-9 (2002)
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72157709202833057/

    Canon EOS-D60 (2002) / Canon EOS-10D (2003)
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72157708308426614/

    Canon EOS D60 (2002) / Canon EOS Rebel (2003)
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72157694374276500/

    Canon EOS D60 (2002) / Fujifilm S3 Pro (2004)
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72157715448116777/

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    AlanSh
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    June 19, 2024, 4:34 p.m. June 19, 2024, 4:34 p.m.
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    I started my Canon journey with the 20D.

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    Maoby
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    July 8, 2024, 11:56 a.m. July 8, 2024, 11:56 a.m.
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    Here are two Nikons that clearly marked their era, each in their own way.

    The Nikon D3s (2009) and D810 (2014)
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720318565464/

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    Nikon D3s (2009) / Nikon D810 (2014)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Nikon D3S (2009)
    12.1 MP FX (24x36mm) sensor ( 4256 x 2832 )
    Price: $5,200 US
    Photos taken with
    Sigma 135mm f/1.8 DG HSM ART
    Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.8
    (multiplication factor of 1.0)
    200-12800 (100-102400) H3 ISO

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    Nikon D810 (2014)
    36.3 MP FX (24x36mm) sensor (7360 x 4912)
    Price: $3,300 US
    Photos taken with
    Sigma 135mm f/1.8 DG HSM ART
    nikkor AF-S 85mm f/1.8 G
    (multiplication factor of 1.0)
    64-12800 (32-51200) H2 ISO

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    Nikon D3s (800 ISO) 100% / Nikon D810 (800 ISO) 100%
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Nikon D3s (51200 ISO) 50% / Nikon D810 (51200 ISO) 30% Prorata
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720318565464
    To see the rest

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    Maoby
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    Aug. 7, 2024, 6:08 p.m. Aug. 7, 2024, 6:08 p.m.
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    Two Tiny Reflex

    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720319277867/

    Comparison between Nikon D40 (2006) and Canon EOS Kiss X7 (2013)
    And seven different lenses from 35 to 200mm

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    Nikon D40 (2006) / Canon EOS Kiss X7 (2013)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Nikon D40 (2006)
    6 MP CCD sensor (3008 x 2000)
    Price: $500.00 US
    Photos taken with the nikkor AF-S 35mm f/1.8 G DX
    nikkor AF-S 85mm f/1.8 G
    the nikkor AF-S VR 105mm f/2.8 G IF-ED
    nikkor AF 180mm f/2.8 D ED
    Tokina SD 50-135 F2.8 DX
    (multiplication factor 1.5) APS-C
    200-1600 (3200) ISO

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    Canon EOS Kiss X7 (2013)
    18 MP CMOS sensor (5184 x 3456)
    The smallest DSLR ever made
    Price: $800.00 US
    Photos taken with the Canon 40mm EF f/2.8 STM
    and Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L USM
    (multiplication factor 1.6) APS-C
    100-12800 ISO (25600)

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    Nikon D40 (2006) 100% / Canon EOS Kiss X7 (2013) 60% Prorata
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720319277867/
    Your remarks are welcome !

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    AlanSh
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    Aug. 7, 2024, 6:20 p.m. Aug. 7, 2024, 6:20 p.m.
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    Interesting how different the whites are.

    Alan

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    Maoby
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    Aug. 14, 2024, 12:57 p.m. Aug. 14, 2024, 12:57 p.m.
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    Two APS-H

    Kodak DCS 460 (1995) / Canon EOS-1D Mark II N (2005)

    First 6MP at over $36,000 US
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720319498759/

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    Kodak DCS 460 (1995) / Canon EOS-1D Mark II N (2005)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Ten years later, the Canon EOS-1D Mark II N
    cost only $4,000 US

    Kodak DCS 460
    6 MP sensor ( 3060x2036 )
    First 6 MP Digital Camera
    Price: $36,000 US
    Photo taken with nikkor AF 50mm f/1.8 and nikkor AF 85mm f/1.8
    (with a multiplication factor of 1.3) APS-H
    ISO 80

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    Canon EOS-1D Mark II N
    8.2 MP sensor ( 3504 x 2336 )
    Price $4,000 US
    Photos taken with Canon EF 50 f/1.8 II and Canon EF 85 f/1.8
    (with a multiplication factor of 1.3) APS-H
    100-1600 (50-3200) ISO

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    Kodak DCS 460 (1995) / Canon EOS-1D Mark II N (2005) 100%
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    To see more: www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720319498759/
    Kodak DCS 460 (1995) / Canon EOS-1D Mark II N (2005)

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    AlanSh
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    Aug. 15, 2024, 4:08 p.m. Aug. 15, 2024, 4:08 p.m.
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    I think I prefer the colour of the older one.

    Alan

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    Maoby
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    Aug. 16, 2024, 12:06 p.m. Aug. 16, 2024, 12:06 p.m.
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    I have to say that the Kodak DCS 460 has always impressed me.

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    Maoby
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    Sept. 19, 2024, 1:16 p.m. Sept. 19, 2024, 1:16 p.m.
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    Lumix DMC-GX7 (2013) / Sony Alpha 7 (2013)

    My ML µ4/3 and ML FF cameras

    Here's a comparison between my lovely GX7 and the very first FF ML
    Very representative of the 2013 technology

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    Lumix DMC-GX7 (2013) / Sony Alpha 7 (2013)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    With six different lenses
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720320295667/

    Panasonic Lumix GX7 (2013)
    16.1 MP µ4/3 sensor ( 4592 x 3448 )
    Price : $1,000.00 US
    Photo taken with the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital 45mm f/1.8 MSC AF
    the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 75mm f1.8
    and the Lumix G 20mm f/1.7 II
    (multiplication factor 2.0)
    ISO 125-25600

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    Sony Alpha 7 (2013)
    24 MP FF sensor (6000 x 4000)
    First ML FF
    Price: $1,700.00 US
    Photos taken with the Sony FE 85mm F1.8
    the nikkor AF 180mm f/2.8 D ED
    and the nikkor AF 50mm f/1.8 D
    (multiplication factor 1.0)
    100-6400 (50-25600) ISO

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    Lumix DMC-GX7 (2013) 50% / Sony Alpha 7 (2013) 40% Prorata
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Lumix DMC-GX7 (400 ISO) 50% / Sony Alpha 7 (400 ISO) 50%
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Your turn to judge
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720320295667/
    Your remarks are welcome !

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    AlanSh
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    Sept. 19, 2024, 2:17 p.m. Sept. 19, 2024, 2:17 p.m.
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    I love the colours from the Lumix - less so the Sony.

    Alan

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    Maoby
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    Oct. 15, 2024, 4:35 p.m. Oct. 15, 2024, 4:35 p.m.
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    iPhone 4 (2010) / Pentax 645D (2010)

    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720321157234/

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    iPhone 4 (2010) / Pentax 645D (2010)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    iPhone 4 (2010)
    5 MP sensor (2592x1936)
    1/3.2" 4.54mm x 3.42mm
    3.85mm f/2.8 camera
    (with 7.6x multiplication factor) = 29.26mm
    80 ISO
    my first personal iPhone

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    Pentax 645D (2010)
    40 MP MF sensor (7264 x 5440 )
    The first Pentax MF Digital
    Price: $9,400.00 US
    Photos taken with the Pentax-D FA 645 55mm f/2.8
    (multiplication factor of 0.8 )
    200-1000 (100-1600) ISO

    Between the iPhone 4 (2010) and the Pentax 645D (2010)
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720321157234/
    Your remarks are welcome !

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    AlanSh
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    Oct. 16, 2024, 8:33 a.m. Oct. 16, 2024, 8:33 a.m.
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    Interesting comparison. Initially, the flower pictures look OK on the iPhone, until you look at the out of focus areas. The bokeh is horrible.

    Alan

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    Maoby
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    Oct. 17, 2024, 1:56 a.m. Oct. 17, 2024, 1:56 a.m.
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    Thanks!
    I don't think the term "bokeh" is appropriate for a 2010 iPhone.
    In 2010 we are at the very beginning of photography with smartphones.
    Companies do not yet see the threat to the compact camera market, we know the rest.
    Things have changed a lot in the last 15 years and the next 15 will probably be very interesting.

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    Maoby
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    Nov. 6, 2024, 12:58 p.m. Nov. 6, 2024, 12:58 p.m.
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    The year 2017

    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720321564819/

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    Sigma sd Quattro H (2017) / iPhone X (2017)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Sigma sd Quattro H (2016-17)
    25.56 MP APS-H sensor (6192 x 4128)
    Price: $1,200.00 USD
    Photos taken with the Sigma 24-105mm F4 DG OS HSM Art
    (with a multiplication factor of 1.35)
    ISO 100-6400
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    iPhone X (2017)
    12MP sensor (4032x3024)
    Main camera: 12MP, ƒ/1.8 28mm (wide)
    1/3.0" 1.22µm sensor
    Telephoto camera: 12MP, ƒ/2.4 52mm (telephoto)
    Sensor 1/3.4" 1.0µm
    1x 2x optical zoom
    (with 7x multiplication factor)
    Selfie camera 7 MP f/2.2, 32mm (standard)

    For those interested, see the comparison
    right here: www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720321564819/
    I would like to have your comments if possible, thank you!

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