Moderation

@ArvoJ

Holy Moley man... if the guy is trying to turn-a-buck, why the heck would that upset you.

@DavidMillier

Ken is a real nice guy, and he plays a mean hand of poker. lol

It will be okay Arvo, his first post here was sincere.

Wow, making it through 190 posts was an experience.

I was also clobbered by Mako2011 in the days prior to the "so called" deadline. I did get back on.

I don't think all of the DPR moderators were bad - I've moderated a private, on-line customer discussion forum and it's no fun.

FWIW I think some moderation is expected but it really needs to be invisible.

To date I've spent more time at one of the other sites however it seems to be too involved with the business of being a site rather than just being one.

Right now, you have threads which are toxic messes. As AlanSh said, they are an advertisement for why not to use this site.

You need to shut them down, and maybe ban some folk. Just delete the threads. There are bits of worthwhile stuff in there, but it's not worth sifting through the sith.

You might want to investigate trolls a bit. They might be competitors.

This problem is a limiting factor, and a existential factor for this site.

JohnVickers wrote: a load of stuff.

You don’t have to view or read the threads that upset you.
Haven’t you got any yardwork to do. lol

How do I know before reading if a thread upset me? Today I was reading an interesting thread and BANG!
After 59 good posts he started that name-calling again.

dprevived.com/t/photography-myth-2/3852/4/#post-43979

Stupid names for clever people.

It was but it's no more there. Thank you (and Bob)!

Always the solution proposed. Ignore. Turn the other cheek. An approach that burdens the victims (and innocent bystanders) while washing one’s hands of the perpetrators. Make the majority contort to avoid bad behavior.

Is your idea of a well-run public park one where visitors just avoid the steaming piles of excrement (dog, and otherwise) littering the walkways? Should nothing be done to control those producing said excrement? I presume the goal here is a welcoming community. One in which we can more-or-less roam freely.

A less stressful solution is that one can save themselves the bother and not visit this site at all. I deal with enough argument as sport in my professional and (sadly) personal life. I am speaking out assuming this is not what Bob, Alan and the community are aiming for.

(And no, I’m not new to the internet. My credentials, like those of many of my colleagues here, go back to USENET discussions. I’m tired, not naive.)

I do want to give credit where due. Things have seemingly improved in the last week or so. Two weeks(?) ago I was very close (on multiple days) to just throwing in the towel here. Not worth expending my energy, and a waste of my recreational free time, to be faced with the toxicity and negative vibes I was seeing in thread after thread in which I was participating. Threads that were home to productive, useful discussion and debate until one or two agitators joined.

For what it’s worth to the team, the site should be fun, useful, and yes, occasionally host to spirited debate. Multiple views encouraged. But not dodgeball, with a group of children who always aim for the crotch. Otherwise I’ll just spend my time elsewhere. That’s okay with me — but is that what we’re striving for?

I want to add one thing. For five years I was a member, and shop supervisor, of a local maker space, 200+ members, that successfully operated under one guiding principle…

Be excellent to each other.

I don’t agree that this view is misguided.

That is very similar to DPReviews

Rule 1 - Be Nice. There is no other rule policy.

How well did that work over there? :-D

jaberg also wrote: a load of stuff.

I knew it… a supervisor !
LOL

oh… I couldn't give two-hoots about dog litter in public parks.

That is the very thing I was addressing, along with Bob’s discomfort towards it.

In the case of our maker space those who couldn’t, or wouldn’t, abide by the policy were excused (or removed). It worked there. Setting the problem of specific moderator abuses aside, perhaps DPR was too tolerant of such behavior overall.

I’m advocating we don’t throw the baby away with the bathwater here.