Excellent (adventure), Aaron! At DPR, I would quite often post banal messages to up the post count so that I could fudge the coveted Last Word in a silly thread.
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And specifically to respond to John's comment, since there's no actual highlight clipping in the clouds, the levels compression can certainly be managed. Just use a competent converter and editor such as ACR/PS and work in 16-bit mode. However, slamming down the highlights slider and calling it quits there won't suffice when the compression is this severe. You'll need to get a little more careful with the tone curves. I'm also surprised that John thinks there's not sufficient noise in the highlights to dither away any posterization as long as you stay in 16-bit mode for editing.
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But you are not obnoxious, unlike some people around here. Those few we have here (who post more than anyone else) are not only ad nauseam, but also nauseating.
David
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I am puzzled because it says that the file is of type .arw ...
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I didn't have any trouble at all taming the highlights using ACR and not getting posterization.
OBTW, the exposure is just about perfect:
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ARW files contain an embedded JPEG. FastRawViewer has an option to display embedded JPEGs together with their histograms.
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None at all. Tried to show it here:
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I always assumed that the resistance to change seen in older people wasn't born out of bitterness, anger, unwillingness to admit error, steadfast beliefs and so on, but is more about protecting and enjoying the investment of the years, effort, expense and so spent on achieving whatever their current status is. Change threatens that hard earned status and is to be feared. The idea that changing outside circumstances might mean having to start from scratch is not appealing to people late in life after fighting hard all their life to get where they are.
As to where the nastiness seen in some older people comes from, my late father used to remark that in his experience, horrible young people eventually mature into horrible older people.
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For another comparison of raw histograms vs camera JPEGs, see this:
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here is my squashed version.
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the sofware never lies 😁
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as someone else pointed its a different file sort.
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It never lies if you know how to use it and interpret the results.
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you posted an embedded jpeg , when we clearly were talking about Raw Histograms.
BtW Im enjoying the program ,its a great tool.embedded jpeg
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It's nothing to do with nastiness from older folk IMO. Perhaps it's more that it's older folk that tend to frequent forums.
Maybe there's an unwillingness to change as we get older though. Partly because we give up learning new tricks. And partly because we're happy with the tricks we already have. They're hard learnt from life's ups and downs. And, crucially, we know they work for us.
Relating this back to photography I'd say this. After 40 years starting with film I've always had an interest in theory. I want to learn every nuance of my camera for example. But I'm not a technical expert, let alone a scientist or electrical engineer. I just want to master nailing the shots I need, and I do.
Lat time I looked, you don't need to be a scientist or electrical engineer to be an amazing photographer. In fact, many amazing photographers don't give a monkeys about theory, let alone frequent forums.
Science and theory is great. We all learn something new every day. We evolve accordingly.
BUT what we don't tend to do is change something that works for us simply because somebody else implies that we're daft if we don't.
We make informed decisions instead.
Absorbing facts that you didn't know before is great. With age and wisdom you are increasingly equipped to adopt or ignore new knowledge. Depending on your own needs and acquired wisdom.
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I posted both, nothing was faked, contrary to what you claimed, and all the markers were in place - which histogram was of raw data, and which was of embedded JPEG.
The view of embedded JPEG with its histogram was there to show that both the look of embedded JPEG and JPEG histogram are deceptive when it comes to raw, and the next screenshot, from the raw data in the same file, proves it.
