So what point are you attempting to make? The content cannot be verified, so who knows where it came from and how it was created, especially since you have a history of faking images to suit the agenda you are pushing at the time.
May 9, 2023
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I don't need to make up or fake anything. Everyone can see that I posted an unmodified screen capture :)
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In a lot of cases raw data is not encoded as RGGB, or encoded using lossy compression (can be RGGB, can be not). In RawDigger there are tools to look at the original data before full RGGB reconstruction.
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Ok, thank you :-)
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Many cameras include certain metadata (black level, white level, midtone calibration) in makernotes as a part of raw file. For those few that don't (edit: or we don't know where it is or how to decipher it) we do tests to find the necessary values to scale the histogram.
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Just to make sure we are on the same page: the histogram you are referencing is one of the embedded JPEG.
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That was to say that Alan has a point. Raw histogram in RGGB from a lossy compressed / non-RGGB file is as accurate as the full RGGB reconstruction is. There are ways to verify the accuracy, and one can also compare histogram from such a file to the histogram from the derived DNG (using Adobe DNG converter).
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He is defending his pallet of tools, trying to say the raw is clipped when it is not. One push of a button in FastRawViewer (highlight inspection) shows how it is.
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Alas, some of the people who produce raw conversion software don't bother with this.
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Excellent ... shades of Rodney King and Spinal Tap ...
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I wish I could ignore the main perp but his inanities are impossible to ignore.
As we approach 600 posts in this thread, DPR's limit of 150 is beginning to make a lot of sense, eh?
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FINALLY SOMEONE MAKING SOME GODDAMN SENSE IN THIS PLACE. This is why this forum is doomed. DOOMED.
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Ouch, I wasn't using ear protection.
I wish all five perps would just please stop.
Post #599 - who'll hit the coveted 600 ??!
Come back, thread post count limit - all is forgiven ...
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I think there would be potential to monetize this perpetual motion. Creating an YouTube channel called "Exposure Bumfight" or something like that and have hours upon hours of back-and-forth might well be an underground hit even among people who are not into photography at all. After all, a lot of people get hooked on equally bizarre reality series.
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I understand the emotional rhetoric.
So, if you put forth an argument and someone disagrees by means of a rebuttal, what do you do, personally?
If you do respond to the rebuttal and that person comes back with yet another rebuttal ad nauseam - at what point does nauseam commence for you and is that point the same for all members? I think not because, as a cripple with nothing better to do than to trawl around the internet participating in interesting (to me) discussions, I can continue to rebut a false argument until the sun goes down whereas another member might quit after responding to only one rebuttal.
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I used to use a dial-in BBS where we got points if we posted a message ending in the number 69, but you had to claim it by adding "69, dudes" (quoting Bill and Ted). You were not allowed to post banal messages to up your count; this was known as "fudging a 69" and would result in your point. Also, if you failed to make the "69 dudes" claim you could forfeit your point, though you were allowed to claim credit within the next couple of messages if you were ranting during your 69 (as in, "Oh, previous message, 69, dudes"). Post #6969 was worth a million points.
Want to pick up that tradition here? It wouldn't be the most immature thing we've seen in these forums. :)
Aaron
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I think you have it backwards, it's the younger people that are more willing to learn, maybe even gullible, always willing trying new things, maybe reckless. Older people more unwilling to admit they were wrong, steadfast in their old beliefs, hostile to change, staying in the comfort zone.
On other forums I've been, I noticed some of the long time members becoming really angry and bitter and combative in recent years. They are like completely different people now compared to 20 years ago. Same will probably happen to me too.
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Excellent (adventure), Aaron! At DPR, I would quite often post banal messages to up the post count so that I could fudge the coveted Last Word in a silly thread.
