I did test the a6300, and the in-camera histogram worked the same as the other Sony cameras I tested.
I did test the a6300, and the in-camera histogram worked the same as the other Sony cameras I tested.
Of course. Among other things, that's the difference between science and engineering, although I would not use the word "balancing". The science you use is the science you use. What you do with that knowledge is up to you.
I feel sorry for non sony users this is from my a6300 6 years old
you can also sett zebras to 109+range
and for the record the histogram is aligned with the raw file not jpeg as everyone seems to think.
for everyone that missed this post
@JimKasson has written: @DonaldB has written: @JimKasson has written: @DonaldB has written:post a link please specifically relating to histogram accuracy.
Look in the second Lenrentals raw exposure post, if you haven’t already.
your camera histogram is way off compared to mine.
The one time in this thread where you posted an in-camera histogram and a raw file, it showed the in-camera histogram was quite far from the real raw histogram, particularly, as I remember, in the red channel. I posted the raw histogram and compared the two. If we had threaded view, I could probably find that post.
As I said earlier, I have not tested your camera, but I have tested the a7, a7II, a7R, a7RII, a7RIII, a7RIV, a9, and a9II. The in camera histograms of those are in the same inaccuracy ballpark as Nikon Z cameras and Fuji GFX ones.
Well, here is from one of raw files Donald posted for everyone to see:
It shows clipping when there is none in raw. Raw highlight inspection tells that there is plenty of details in highlight to work with:
i dont want to embarris you and actually post that image in FRV. nice job you did to fake the histogram
nice job you did to fake the histogram
Stop with that already. Everyone can check the raw file and see you are wrong in your accusation.
@DonaldB has written:nice job you did to fake the histogram
Stop with that already. Everyone can check the raw file and see you are wrong in your accusation.
@IliahBorg has written: @DonaldB has written:nice job you did to fake the histogram
Stop with that already. Everyone can check the raw file and see you are wrong in your accusation.
And how different are those raw histograms? Scale tricks you?
@DonaldB has written: @JimKasson has written: @DonaldB has written:post a link please specifically relating to histogram accuracy.
Look in the second Lenrentals raw exposure post, if you haven’t already.
edit, there is no camera histogram images.
There is one for the X2D.
The last image in that series is of a photo in Phocus preceded by: "But when we turn the clipping warning on, some of the flowers are tinged in purple". Unfortunately, there's no way for the reader to know what the highlight warning indicates because you don't say what threshold setting is being used. The screen shot would be more useful if the highlight / shadow warning tool was included to show what the warning is actually indicating is clipped or if that information was included in your text.
www.lensrentals.com/blog/2023/05/how-to-expose-raw-files-part-2
@BurnImage has written:Let’s try an analogy.
My car is apparently most fuel efficient at 55mph. The published facts tell me that. But I can’t use that speed around town and I’d like to speed up on the motorway.
Sure. The fact is your car gets the best mileage at 55 mph. But that fact doesn't dictate the way you drive it.
Yes it does … there’s speed limits 😂 The point is you need to know the science/facts. But again, we are saying the same things, worded differently.
Back to this photography topic. If eeking out maximum performance from your sensor is your PRIMARY objective this thread educates those that want to do it but didn’t know how to.
We've also considered alternative strategy’s for those who want to work fast in dynamic changing lighting where eeking out the maximum IQ from your sensor becomes a SECONDARY objective.
There’s no right or wrong here.
@JimKasson has written: @DonaldB has written: @JimKasson has written: @DonaldB has written:post a link please specifically relating to histogram accuracy.
Look in the second Lenrentals raw exposure post, if you haven’t already.
edit, there is no camera histogram images.
There is one for the X2D.
The last image in that series is of a photo in Phocus preceded by: "But when we turn the clipping warning on, some of the flowers are tinged in purple". Unfortunately, there's no way for the reader to know what the highlight warning is based on because you don't say what threshold setting is being used. The screen shot would be more useful if the highlight / shadow warning tool was included to show what the warning is actually indicating is clipped or if that information was included in your text.
I used the default settings:
I used the default settings:
Thanks. That's useful to know.
@IliahBorg has written: @DonaldB has written: @DannoLeftForums has written: @DonaldB has written:have a deal. do you know how many links ive already posted. you do the test and lets see what the em13 is doing.
Let's see if you carry out your part of the deal. My 2c says you won't.
I said haaaaaave aaaaaaaaa deeeeeeeeal meaning not. or i would of said you have a deal.
Please, what's so important in this discussion that you are resorting to tricks? We are just talking, nothing life-threatening.
whats annoying is everyone is to lazy and gutless to there own testing, im not here to do all the running around, if anyone wants to prove my findings incorrect then be my guest DO YOUR OWN TESTING is that so hard or life threatening ?
What are you waffling on about?
You plagiarise someone else's work, fake your images and you have altered some of my posts in your quotes of them.
No wonder no-one takes you seriously.
You have only yourself to blame.
@DonaldB has written: @JimKasson has written: @DonaldB has written:post a link please specifically relating to histogram accuracy.
Look in the second Lenrentals raw exposure post, if you haven’t already.
edit, there is no camera histogram images.
There is one for the X2D.
This is the discovery, your histogram is RGB mine are not using live histogram. has your camera just luminosity live histogram ? and if it does ,does it match the rgb ?
@DonaldB has written: @IliahBorg has written: @DonaldB has written: @DannoLeftForums has written: @DonaldB has written:have a deal. do you know how many links ive already posted. you do the test and lets see what the em13 is doing.
Let's see if you carry out your part of the deal. My 2c says you won't.
I said haaaaaave aaaaaaaaa deeeeeeeeal meaning not. or i would of said you have a deal.
Please, what's so important in this discussion that you are resorting to tricks? We are just talking, nothing life-threatening.
whats annoying is everyone is to lazy and gutless to there own testing, im not here to do all the running around, if anyone wants to prove my findings incorrect then be my guest DO YOUR OWN TESTING is that so hard or life threatening ?
What are you waffling on about?
You plagiarise someone else's work, fake your images and you have altered some of my posts in your quotes of them.
No wonder no-one takes you seriously.
You have only yourself to blame.
If you cant be part of a sensible conversation with members please dont post childish comments it only ruins the vibe for everyone else.
its why we need a threaded view, so we dont have to read your drivel.
This is the discovery, your histogram is RGB mine are not using live histogram. has your camera just luminosity live histogram ? and if it does ,does it match the rgb ?
The X2D doesn't have a live histogram. It computes the review histogram from the JPEG preview image, just like the Sony cameras do for live histo and review histo.
By the way, this is a serous omission which I hope will soon be fixed. The GFX 100S has a live RGB histogram.
its why we need a threaded view, so we dont have to read your drivel.
And yet you can't post anything that proves what I posted about you is not true 😄
@DonaldB has written:if anyone wants to prove my findings incorrect then be my guest DO YOUR OWN TESTING is that so hard or life threatening ?
I you follow Jim's site you'll find he does loads of his own tests with much more rigour and a level of experimental design that you likely couldn't conceive of.
(BTW, your daughter will probably tell you that a preposition is something that you should never end a sentence with. Sorry about that).
Im not ashamed about my poor English writing skills
Maybe he should get some lessons from his daughter or get her to proof read his posts or better yet, write them for him.