• Members 240 posts
    May 11, 2023, 1:52 p.m.

    For Sony shooters you can adjust Zebra thresholds. The rule of thumb is a setting of 70 for videographers, 100 for jpeg stills and, crucially, 109+ for raw stills.

    That latter setting is basically telling the camera, hey I’m shooting raw so I’ve got a higher clipping threshold.

    In other words it’s more useful than a jpeg histogram. I’ve come to really appreciate this feature!

    This video from Mark Galer does a brilliant job of explaining it:

    youtu.be/HPhC0xr8-IA

  • Members 976 posts
    May 11, 2023, 1:58 p.m.

    If I'm not missing something, he doesn't show raw histograms. As Donald discovered, zebras with this 109+ setting resulted in more than 1/3 EV down from ETTR, and that's for a regular daylight scene, nothing fancy like a red or a blue flower.

  • Members 240 posts
    May 11, 2023, 2:09 p.m.

    Yep, I didn’t say it was perfect, but it’s the best implementation I’ve seen in a brand so far. It’s still not a raw histogram, but I find it more useful than the usual jpeg histogram in the EVF or on the rear screen in real time during dynamic fast paced shooting situations.

  • Removed user
    May 11, 2023, 2:10 p.m.

    So fully Manual then?

    Odd that your earlier posted example raw shot was done in Aperture Priority ...

    ... in which case, how about:

    Set your ISO to base ISO.
    Set your f-stop to the stop you need to get the depth of field you want.
    See if the automatically-set shutter speed gave as much or as little blur as you want. If not, play with EC and to hell with the correct exposure.
    😉

  • Members 976 posts
    May 11, 2023, 2:17 p.m.

    I'm addressing the presentation, which skips important factual data and thus may mislead.
    For some reason the followers of 109+ idea consider it very reliable and also don't do proper testing.

  • Members 1738 posts
    May 11, 2023, 2:21 p.m.

    Give me the words that confuse you and I'll add them to the glossary.

    Precision is confusing? I would have thought the opposite.

  • Members 1738 posts
    May 11, 2023, 2:24 p.m.

    You missed the images in the Lensrentals post? You must have been skimming...

  • Members 1738 posts
    May 11, 2023, 2:26 p.m.

    Shooting the messenger.

  • Members 1738 posts
    May 11, 2023, 2:27 p.m.

    The color cast of the lens is included in the raw data.

  • Members 457 posts
    May 11, 2023, 2:28 p.m.

    You increasingly sound like the protagonist in the wrong-way driver joke.

  • Members 1738 posts
    May 11, 2023, 2:29 p.m.

    Did you miss the comparisons in the Lensrentals post?

  • Members 1738 posts
    May 11, 2023, 2:35 p.m.

    This is an unattributed quote from the LensRentals article that I wrote. For shame.

  • Removed user
    May 11, 2023, 2:36 p.m.

    otoh my g1 by default adds lens correction to the output jpgs but not to raw

  • Members 1738 posts
    May 11, 2023, 2:37 p.m.

    There's always P mode...

  • Members 184 posts
    May 11, 2023, 2:37 p.m.

    I do and many people do - exactly in the field when doing landscape photography (and not only)

  • Members 1738 posts
    May 11, 2023, 2:38 p.m.

    I quite like zebras, but they, too, are based on the preview image.

  • Removed user
    May 11, 2023, 2:41 p.m.

    Indeed, I actually though he wrote it - hence my earlier prissy post about Aperture Priority ...

    .. on my camera, to complete the first three steps, I must be in full Manual though.

  • Members 976 posts
    May 11, 2023, 3:01 p.m.