Have Phones Killed The Genuinely Compact Camera Market ?

'Can' and 'does' are different things. I'm most certainly not naive, I spend half my life slagging off our government and discussing their shady behaviour, but even I don't believe they are currently tracking and recording all of our lives.

Absolutely. Only when it suits them. Such as a pandemic, & they want to keep their eye on who is being a good little citizen staying at home when ordered to, when & where they're going shopping (check ins) etc etc.

I don't have a landline anymore, so my only communicator is the Cell-phone.
My heart is on the verge, more of a reason two have two mobiles.
At least always on me, even when moving inside my house.

My own Poco F3 256G cost me around 220€ on offer 2.5 years ago >it's my main<
while the Honor V10 128G costs me a little less than 190€ on offer 4 years ago.

I drop them from 4 to 20 times per day. I change the H9 screen protection every two months on average to be safe.
I have a transparent Silicon cover. The borders are 2mm higher than the screen itself and offer good protection even on a face-down fall.
- Unless unlucky as last time: it felt on a gurney foot.

The P.F3 offers me three lenses: Tele, Wide, Macro.... and I get some quite impressive shots... but the shutter is not a good fit for my fingers/hands.

I've got a Z30 + 4 zoom lenses that cover from 14 to 600. 4kg bag but only 2kg if I don't carry the 150-600 😎

You can take a picture even with a milk box as I did at the beginning 53 years ago with a 6x6 Ferrania.
Nowadays weight and comfort have to be taken into account, tough.

---> I never ever cracked a H5 or H9 protection glass!

This discussion isn't about what the government is tracking, it's about keeping a few people in my life who's health and safety literally depends on having an immediate connection to me.

You got a better solution to that, then I'm all ears.

Right. So it's not Orwellian bullsh!t after all then hey?
What did people do before mobile phones? I'll tell you what they did. Went and had a sh!t in peace, had weekends and evenings off without being pestered, happily explored places without network coverage, managed to walk down the street without bumping into others due to being glued to a screen, had conversations at restaurants that weren't interrupted by beeps, bings, rings and all manner of ring tones and electronic noises, that sort of thing.

You keep wanting to drive this into a discussion on the evils of the modern cell phone. I'm not disagreeing or arguing with you, I'm just not interested following you down some rabbit hole, so leave me out of it.

It's also not pertinent to the discussion, of why I need a phone and certainly not why I prefer a camera to a phone for taking pictures.

That's a pretty good use as it is; today in the workplace, I really need WhatsApp at the very least.

And you have to admit, Photopills is a damn handy app.

No one makes phone calls anymore; my wife says me making phone calls is such a boomer thing. :P

What did they do before getting 3 cars per household?

No idea ... I do use my car to go to the shop 95mt away. Forced to.

About why people need phones, you missed that one:

dprevived.com/t/have-phones-killed-the-genuinely-compact-camera-market/3166/post/34678/

And I can add that I receive ALL the DRUG prescriptions via WhatsApp and reroute them to the pharmacy the same way.
Just in case I forget them, I have with myself when I need them... Also I have all my medical's papers )12kg( available on the same device: the Cell-Phone

Why use and what control people's position do?

Alert "emergency control room" that something goes afoul without even the need to receive a call.

) it's called pattern variation(

PS: single movement can be "singled out" sure!
...but it never worth the effort, unless it's a terrorist of high level.

( flat earth has no use as I can see it - YMMV )

There are 8 billion people on the planet at this time, so the reality of them paying attention to me is highly remote. Go ahead, track me. I am sure that me and 8 billion other people going to the grocery store is fascinating. Even in court, Apple refuses to give up details.

Travel on business much lately? Find that pay phone at the airport for me. Gate change? No phone, no alert, possible missed flight. Suggesting that people in business could travel today might be to-the-letter true, it "can" be done, but it would really make things unnecessarily hard. Why would anyone do that?

Ever go to a sporting event lately? They don't even print tickets anymore.

And everything you listed people did before cell phones? Still options. Really really easy ones. If you don't want a cell phone, that's fine. No need to force Orwellian bullsh!t rants to the people that enjoy using them.

You know, this particular comment chain is an example why younger people don't like coming to forums with old people.

Governments don't need to track people and control people through their smartphones because they already duped people into getting the Covid vaccines. The vaccines are inside people's bodies so tracking is much more accurate and the control is much more direct.

doady wrote: The vaccines are inside people's bodies so tracking is much more accurate and the control is much more direct.

Please elaborate or direct me to a White Paper that explains this.

A white paper is a report or guide that informs readers concisely about a complex issue and presents the issuing body's philosophy on the matter. It is meant to help readers understand an issue, solve a problem, or make a decision.

Developing and distributing vaccines is a complex business. I'd certainly never go down that distribution route for my mind control chips. It would be a lot easier and cheaper to distribute them in aspirins, paracetamol, beer, milk, chocolate cake, ice cream, bread rolls, tea bags etc etc. And it would have the advantage that no one will be reluctant consumers, no one would know, and no one would be protesting. I'm lazy like that.

Anyway, my government doesn't need to issue mind control chips. It has just passed a law that allows it to anticipate crime and arrest anyone it feels like without evidence in advance of any offence. And not for being an existential threat, but merely for being someone who might potentially think about protesting about something or even mistakenly someone who has absolutely nothing to do with activism but the police are too stupid to realise handing out rape alarms to women is hardly going to overthrow the monarchy. Who needs mind control vaccines, obsolete. Not only that, the streets are full of potholes like we live in a 3rd world country. I'd like to know which govt dept is going to re-imburse me for blown tyres...

Oh no, I can feel the covid chips alerting my local police station as we speak. They will be at my doorstep within 7 days to issue a crime number.

So, the reason we no longer have a market for compact cameras is government overreach?

Good talk.

I would also observe that the UK's batch of vaccine-transported mind control chips must have been made in the PRC, because they don't work for sh*t; I've had four doses and despise our government more than I ever did.

Welcome to 2010

Iron-Y white papers.

They classify this as one of the best Covid mentions
- link below

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What's the point? If you've already got the vaccine, then nothing will be able to change your mind. It is too late.