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AlexeyK77
July 15, 2023
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    AlexeyK77
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    July 15, 2023, 7:39 a.m. July 15, 2023, 7:39 a.m.
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    :)
    In my opinion it's very good hybrid camera for enthusiasts and not pro users.
    Very funny to read how people complain why it's not mini A9 for the 1400$ )))
    Sansara never change ha-ha )))

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    bobn2
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    July 15, 2023, 8:49 a.m. July 15, 2023, 8:49 a.m.
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    @AlexeyK77 has written:

    :)
    In my opinion it's very good hybrid camera for enthusiasts and not pro users.
    Very funny to read how people complain why it's not mini A9 for the 1400$ )))
    Sansara never change ha-ha )))

    I think it's interesting that Sony doesn't closely relate their FF and APS-C products. They follow a different design ethos and different feature lists. I suspect it has something to do with the dual heritage of Cybershot and KonicaMinolta. with the two product lines being developed by independent teams from each heritage. In any case, the A6700 looks like a solid product.

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    DonaldB
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    July 15, 2023, 9:25 a.m. July 15, 2023, 9:25 a.m.
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    i watched Tony Northrup utube review on the a6700 and its a very refined camera, auto focus is first class. i own both the a74 and a6300 so i cant see any replacements for me anytime soon though.

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    finnan
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    July 15, 2023, 9:44 a.m. July 15, 2023, 9:44 a.m.
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    HAND.

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    DonaldB
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    July 15, 2023, 10:07 a.m. July 15, 2023, 10:07 a.m.
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    @finnan has written:

    What a pity, no state-of-the-art sensor.

    Well, at least a step up from the decade-old sensor in the other A6xxx models.

    whats a state of the art sensor ?

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    finnan
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    July 15, 2023, 10:21 a.m. July 15, 2023, 10:21 a.m.
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    HAND.

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    AlexeyK77
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    July 15, 2023, 11:08 a.m. July 15, 2023, 11:08 a.m.
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    @finnan has written:
    @DonaldB has written:

    [whats a state of the art sensor ?

    Fuji X-T5

    I don't find information on ptonots to photos about sensor in 6700\fx30, but all state of the art sensors made by sony, and may be for top sensor better to look at A7r-m5 sensor:
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    DonaldB
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    July 15, 2023, 11:43 a.m. July 15, 2023, 11:43 a.m.
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    PNG, 107.3 KB, uploaded by DonaldB on July 15, 2023.

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    IliahBorg
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    July 15, 2023, 2:30 p.m. July 15, 2023, 2:30 p.m.
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    Donald, is it about the sensor not being "state of the art", or just about the sensor size?
    Take 2 shots with an X-T5 and see how the result compares with an ILCE-7RM5.

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    IliahBorg
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    July 15, 2023, 3:31 p.m. July 15, 2023, 3:31 p.m.
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    @AlexeyK77 has written:
    @finnan has written:
    @DonaldB has written:

    [whats a state of the art sensor ?

    Fuji X-T5

    I don't find information on ptonots to photos about sensor in 6700\fx30, but all state of the art sensors made by sony, and may be for top sensor better to look at A7r-m5 sensor:
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    Well, www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#FujiFilm%20GFX%20100_14,Sony%20ILCE-7RM5

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    finnan
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    July 15, 2023, 5:43 p.m. July 15, 2023, 5:43 p.m.
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    HAND.

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    bobn2
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    July 15, 2023, 6:29 p.m. July 15, 2023, 6:29 p.m.
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    @finnan has written:

    PDR isn't the be-all and end-all for a sensor.

    And most people don't really know what 'PDR' represents - not their fault - it's not at all clear.

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    AlanSh
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    July 15, 2023, 7:15 p.m. July 15, 2023, 7:15 p.m.
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    @bobn2 has written:
    @finnan has written:

    PDR isn't the be-all and end-all for a sensor.

    And most people don't really know what 'PDR' represents - not their fault - it's not at all clear.

    Me for one

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    ArvoJ
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    July 15, 2023, 7:38 p.m. July 15, 2023, 7:38 p.m.
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    @bobn2 has written:

    And most people don't really know what 'PDR' represents - not their fault - it's not at all clear.

    From www.photonstophotos.net/GeneralTopics/Sensors_&_Raw/Sensor_Analysis_Primer/Engineering_and_Photographic_Dynamic_Range.htm:

    My definition of Photographic Dynamic Range is a low endpoint with an SNR of 20 when adjusted for the appropriate Circle Of Confusion (COC) for the sensor.

    For me this was first time encountering this PDR thing too.

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    IliahBorg
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    July 15, 2023, 8:05 p.m. July 15, 2023, 8:05 p.m.
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    @ArvoJ has written:
    @bobn2 has written:

    And most people don't really know what 'PDR' represents - not their fault - it's not at all clear.

    From www.photonstophotos.net/GeneralTopics/Sensors_&_Raw/Sensor_Analysis_Primer/Engineering_and_Photographic_Dynamic_Range.htm:

    My definition of Photographic Dynamic Range is a low endpoint with an SNR of 20 when adjusted for the appropriate Circle Of Confusion (COC) for the sensor.

    Does PDR depend on sensor size?

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    ArvoJ
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    July 15, 2023, 8:12 p.m. July 15, 2023, 8:12 p.m.
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    @IliahBorg has written:

    Does PDR depend on sensor size?

    So they claim: www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR_Area_scatter.htm

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    IliahBorg
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    July 15, 2023, 8:17 p.m. July 15, 2023, 8:17 p.m.
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    @ArvoJ has written:
    @IliahBorg has written:

    Does PDR depend on sensor size?

    So they claim: www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR_Area_scatter.htm

    I was joking, sorry.

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    bobn2
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    July 15, 2023, 8:24 p.m. July 15, 2023, 8:24 p.m.
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    @ArvoJ has written:
    @bobn2 has written:

    And most people don't really know what 'PDR' represents - not their fault - it's not at all clear.

    From www.photonstophotos.net/GeneralTopics/Sensors_&_Raw/Sensor_Analysis_Primer/Engineering_and_Photographic_Dynamic_Range.htm:

    My definition of Photographic Dynamic Range is a low endpoint with an SNR of 20 when adjusted for the appropriate Circle Of Confusion (COC) for the sensor.

    For me this was first time encountering this PDR thing too.

    It still doesn't tell you what it represents, just what Bill's definition is. And why you'd want a SNR of 20 in the deep shadows is beyond me. Something like 2 does just fine.

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