Thanks Linda, I have seen some of your raptor images and I know you're well versed in their behavior and how to capture them, so I appreciate your feedback. That huge cumbersome and complex nest was one of the reasons I was seduced into trying to get a lot into the frame.
also love the catch, but am unsure about the square crop.
I am sure that MInnie didn't shoot this in a native 1:1 ratio, so it must have been a deliberate crop from an image in another ratio.
And while I love (LOVE; L-O-V-E) square crops, this one does not work for me.
The branch on which the rightmost osprey sits, could have been a diagonal, but not in this square crop.
And I also don't like the stray thick branch on the far left: it leads my eye out of the image.
Since the right side branch is already touching the image's edge, there is no reason to keep the image this big (a branch that did NOT touch the image's edge would have been different.
I think I would crop this to 4:3 or even 3:2 (heck, maybe even 16:9) to concentrate on the main items on our menu.
We don't need all that blue.This would be roughly what I mean (but I did not use a classic ratio: I just pulled the edges closer at a whim)
Please note that my crop is of microscopic size; I did not download a full resolution image but just the forum embedded version - after the crop it becomes even smaller - it's just to show you what I mean with cropping)
I appreciate your demo of a more compact crop. I wanted to get the birds larger, but was flummoxed by how to get enough of the amazing nest into the frame with them. Your crop gives me another option to pursue.
Usually, Roel likes square format and I rarely do. This time I began to write about why I thought square was the way to go on this image, then I looked further at Roel's crop and I wavered. The wider crop feels more balanced. It still retains the nest details but doesn't feel as heavy to the lower left. Interestingly, it is more than simply visual balance. The change in crops feels as though the relationship between the birds is different. Roel's crop gives a bit more prominence to the right hand bird and as a result it feels more like a partnership than a support role. Or am I imagining this?
Ospreys are unknown to me so I appreciate the text comments that put the difficulty of getting the shot into context.
Is the sky a little oversaturated?
Thanks Mike, I appreciate your input. I will definitely try out a crop that limits the bulk of the nest (the thing is HUGE, the average osprey nest weighs about 300 lbs!), will fiddle with the blue saturation too. Maybe too zealous polarization.
This is a good capture as well as being an unusual find. I liked the original version, but then preferred Roel’s crop without knowing why, until I realised that I was being distracted by that triangle of branches in the bottom left corner.
It is nice to know that devastating winds bring ospreys , and not just destruction.Thanks Pete, I will pursue a crop of that kind. I am always prone to include too much in the frame, I am addicted to context. And yes, I was glad to note at least one positive after the destruction caused by that storm. I was encouraged that they returned this year for a second stay at their summer home.
Pete
Great capture with an interesting composition and dynamic! At first I thought the square crop is something I would change, but then realized what bothered me, is that it's actually not exactly square... So I tried making it square, get rid of the wood at the lower left corner and changed the colors slightly. Of course that will decrease its documentary value somewhat, but it kinda captures what I'd try to go for:
I will try to part with some of the bulk of the enormous nest, though I confess the size of that monster has impressed me. This year they refurbished it and probably added 50 lbs of new sticks to it. My displays are never purely documentary, and there will be other images in the collection that are far more highly edited, so it won't hurt anything. I'm not gonna enter it in an Audubon contest. And I'll tame the blue a bit.
Excellent capture. I like the natural positioning of the birds. Ideal!
Thanks Chris. I figure he already gave Mom her half of the fish. The littles aren't hatched yet, but should be soon.
I appreciate everyone's help. When I'm working on a project I depend on forum members to give me feedback to help me shape what I'm expecting to display. To me, that is better feedback than I could get from an art critic - you guys come from a wide variety of backgrounds and have a wide variety of interests and styles and experience, but you share a common trait: a well developed visual intelligence. Thank you for sharing it.
