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The Foundation has been created!

bobn2
April 12, 2023
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    NickontheBaltic
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    April 13, 2023, 4:46 p.m. April 13, 2023, 4:46 p.m.
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    You're right. It should have been and it should be. Time to file for a change of name.

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    Deleted Removed user
    April 13, 2023, 5:01 p.m. April 13, 2023, 5:01 p.m.
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    @Greg has written:

    Giving people badges or gold stars would only magnify / create a hierarchy.
    Yes, money talks, but in this instance it should remain silent.

    Agreed. Silent facilities not enjoyed by the hoi polloi would be OK, I reckon.

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    COYL
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    April 13, 2023, 5:04 p.m. April 13, 2023, 5:04 p.m.
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    Extraordinary achievement, and a testimony to all those involved of their love of photography and the need for a photographic community. I hope we all do our best to make this work, and judging by those that have already registered to use the site that is happening. I will be grateful for a continued opportunity to grow in this craft and connect with others.

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    AndreBARELIER
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    April 13, 2023, 7:33 p.m. April 13, 2023, 7:33 p.m.
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    Congratulations, and many thanks.
    Long life to dprevived.com!
    André

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    bobn2
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    April 13, 2023, 8:18 p.m. April 13, 2023, 8:18 p.m.
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    @xpatUSA has written:

    Silent facilities not enjoyed by the hoi polloi would be OK, I reckon

    The tax man says that if we offer facilities in return for donations they stop being donations and we have to pay tax on them.

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    April 13, 2023, 8:39 p.m. April 13, 2023, 8:39 p.m.
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    @bobn2 has written:
    @xpatUSA has written:

    Silent facilities not enjoyed by the hoi polloi would be OK, I reckon

    The tax man says that if we offer facilities in return for donations they stop being donations and we have to pay tax on them.

    Good old Inland Revenue !!

    I remember them well ... and when I left in '85, VAT was 15% ...

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    davidwien
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    April 13, 2023, 8:53 p.m. April 13, 2023, 8:53 p.m.
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    @bobn2 has written:
    @xpatUSA has written:

    Silent facilities not enjoyed by the hoi polloi would be OK, I reckon

    The tax man says that if we offer facilities in return for donations they stop being donations and we have to pay tax on them.

    As far as I am concerned, I would regard any financial contribution that I might make as a donation in recognition of the generosity of those volunteers running the site. I imagine that the donation would go to defray expenses like rental of server space, etc, and I would not expect any personal facilities, privileges or other benefits.

    David

    David

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    bobn2
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    April 13, 2023, 8:54 p.m. April 13, 2023, 8:54 p.m.
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    @xpatUSA has written:

    VAT was 15% ...

    Yes, it would be VAT we have to pay, and that's 20% off all donations. It made it a no brainer - partners don't get perks.

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    meow
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    April 13, 2023, 9:23 p.m. April 13, 2023, 9:23 p.m.
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    Good.

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    AlanSh
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    April 13, 2023, 9:38 p.m. April 13, 2023, 9:38 p.m.
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    @bobn2 has written:
    @xpatUSA has written:

    VAT was 15% ...

    Yes, it would be VAT we have to pay, and that's 20% off all donations. It made it a no brainer - partners don't get perks.

    Unless you can register the foundation as a charity. Then you can claim gift aid on any donations.

    Alan

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    TheDavinator
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    April 14, 2023, 12:40 a.m. April 14, 2023, 12:40 a.m.
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    @bobn2 has written:
    @xpatUSA has written:

    VAT was 15% ...

    Yes, it would be VAT we have to pay, and that's 20% off all donations. It made it a no brainer - partners don't get perks.

    Not even a gold star? 🤪

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    AlainCh2
    Members 535 posts
    April 14, 2023, 7:52 a.m. April 14, 2023, 7:52 a.m.
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    @TheDavinator has written:

    Not even a gold star? 🤪

    For @bobn2 and @AlanSh, it will be "Founder"
    for the other
    "Contributor"

    It would be an Honorable mention under the handle/Name
    Like in DPR where you get a mention related to posts number
    (if I got it right)

    "Registered"
    and
    "GuestUser12345"

    With these two that come in my mind, should end what mention's need.

    And yes, guests should be able to post in a limited number of forums, not everywhere.

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    bobn2
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    April 14, 2023, 9:29 a.m. April 14, 2023, 9:29 a.m.
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    @TheDavinator has written:

    Not even a gold star? 🤪

    Maybe a little sticker saying 'Brave Boy' (or Girl).

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    bobn2
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    April 14, 2023, 9:30 a.m. April 14, 2023, 9:30 a.m.
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    @AlanSh has written:
    @bobn2 has written:
    @xpatUSA has written:

    VAT was 15% ...

    Yes, it would be VAT we have to pay, and that's 20% off all donations. It made it a no brainer - partners don't get perks.

    Unless you can register the foundation as a charity. Then you can claim gift aid on any donations.
    Alan

    It's hard to justify as a charity, and that brings other complications.

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    davidwien
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    April 14, 2023, 10:16 a.m. April 14, 2023, 10:16 a.m.
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    @bobn2 has written:

    It's hard to justify as a charity, and that brings other complications.

    In America they are called "not for profit organisations", but I dont think that concept is known in the UK.

    David

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    bobn2
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    April 14, 2023, 10:47 a.m. April 14, 2023, 10:47 a.m.
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    @davidwien has written:
    @bobn2 has written:

    It's hard to justify as a charity, and that brings other complications.

    In America they are called "not for profit organisations", but I dont think that concept is known in the UK.

    David

    In deed they are, the Foundation is a not for profit company, but that's not the same thing as a charity.

    From www.gov.uk/government/publications/what-makes-a-charity-cc4

    In England and Wales, a charity is an organisation that is:

    established for charitable purposes only, and
    subject to the High Court’s charity law jurisdiction
    Purposes are what your charity is set up to achieve - they are explained in your governing document. To be charitable, your charity’s purposes must:

    fall within the descriptions of purposes
    be for the public benefit
    As to what the 'public benefit' means, you can read up here

    The legal opinion on what public benefit means is:
    “To ascertain whether a gift constitutes a valid charitable trust so as to escape being void on the ground of perpetuity, a first inquiry must be whether it is public - whether it is for the benefit of the community or of an appreciably important class of the community. The inhabitants of a parish or town, or any particular class of such inhabitants, may, for instance, be the objects of such a gift, but private individuals, or a fluctuating body of private individuals, cannot.”

    I suspect that our members would be 'a fluctuating body of private individuals'.

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    Lewiedude
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    April 14, 2023, 10:52 a.m. April 14, 2023, 10:52 a.m.
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    Volunteer contributions? Or are you putting up a pay wall? Just wondering.

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    bobn2
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    April 14, 2023, 12:11 p.m. April 14, 2023, 12:11 p.m.
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    @Lewiedude has written:

    Volunteer contributions? Or are you putting up a pay wall? Just wondering.

    No pay wall. In what sense do you mean 'volunteer contributions'?

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