The arguments thread

This is a prime example of who he really is…no matter how many PMs are sent…this is the real person.

My feeling is that you're the boss, you shouldn't be getting into these discussions in this forum in the first place. On top of that, you should never have divulged that you were getting advice from Mako. You need to elevate yourself above the peasants, do the work behind the scenes that you need to do.

I also don't think it's a matter of you staying out and him taking it on the chin. Apparently there's plenty of anger to go around on Mako, you're just further adding to the anger and getting it directed at you since you seem to be leaning towards possibly, maybe, want to, consider him as a mod. I personally have no beef with him, maybe I should have one, but once the conversation is over between me and a mod, it's over and forgotten.

My problem with DPR is that the original Z6s and Z7s weren't much of it, and moderation changed, deleted, adjusted, banned, whatever and whomever they needed to put them in a favorable light. That's just crooked business. And if I were a mod, or if someone wanted me to do that in business, the answer would have been no. If moderation is actually a volunteer only endeavor, with no money changing hands, no loans of equipment, free equipment, deep discounts on equipment, then maybe you could explain to me why a moderator would do what I just described.

And this is not directed at Mako. I don't remember what he might have pulled, changed or whatever.

I understand….but I also disagree. Who I think he is, is based upon his actions and behaviour…and that is indeed relevant. Mako banned someone for communicating with a mod outside DPReview. There is no rule against that, and as such, the banning was simply vindictive. That is not open to debate.

That said, I’m done with all this. I highly doubt he will reveal himself as a regular member. And if I ever found out he moderated here, I’ll be gone. I’m just going to enjoy the rest of this forum and ignore these mako threads as it takes us no where and just makes people upset. You and the team are doing an awesome job and really, that is all that matters here. So, thank you!

@ Bobn2 - Rich42 has written:
He should never be a moderator here. Just. Never.

"Rules designed to apply to a specific individual are bad rules. The US constitution specifically outlaws Bills of Attainder for just that reason.I very stongly suspect that Mako would never wish to be a facilitator here, but were he to, he should be treated like any other person. We can't have out own version of attainder, saying you don't have the same rights as everyone else because you're Mako."
etc ..etc..with the rest of Bobs response...

Wow, the first thing that popped into mind was Neville Chamberlain's foreign policy of appeasement, especially the signing of the Munich agreement.
It also brings to mind how in this day and age [regardless as to how civil/advanced we have become] how wrongdoers have more rights than the victims.

I will say that it is splendid that you allow members to discuss these matters without editing/locking banning members who need to express their concerns. Kudos Bob!

Exactly, mako should apply his own rules and ban himself from DPR 😂

@ Bobn2 - "Really? Please do explain what you see as the similarities. To my mind there are none."

Yes really... I presume you skipped over that bit of history. Try thinking outside the box for a minute.
Many people [ myself included] suffered from that atrocity that could well have been avoided had Neville acted appropriately and promptly. But he was of a different mindset!

I know the reason for their bans. Why it has two ?? at the end of what I wrote. Figured I'd throw it out there anyway.

Not the one of my two posts you should have paid attention to.

1:
I only exchange a public message HERE with the DPR Nikon Coolpix moderator, mr mako read it and not only banned me, but also banned the Nikon CoolPix moderator too.

2:
Did he exchange communication with you outside DPR? If so, did he banned you and himself from DPR? Obviously not. He enforces his law as he sees fit.

3:
As I said before, your playground, your rules. But you are not going to change our perception of him and time will tell if your forum reputation is affected or not by his presence and “wisdom”.

Hey guys, isn't it time to let this thread die. The whole ad hominem theme of this thread, l think is not necessary anymore. Time to stop dwelling on the dying corpse of DPR. I looked at another forum that was much talked about, saw who was involved and decided not to join. It is that easy.

Sure, I went down heavily, perhaps much too heavily on the guys who exited me prematurely from DPR for reasons I do not agree with, but it is time to move on. The King is dead, Long live the King.

I believe the administrators at DPR, probably desperate to stem the decline of DPR ( like most photography resources on the web right now) were just as responsible for the change in moderation at the time of the rule changes. I believe they wanted a docile enviroment free of negative talk concerning the brands in the various forums. I believe they are more responsible for the problems many of us suddenly had with DPR, than the moderators, who were following directives.

1) ... nice, really nice.

2) Please copy-paste what you have written here today, while on vacation...
... and make it part of the "administration rules" for The Council.

You have already nicely done 90% of that job

I'm getting just a bit tired of your Anti-US bias. : )