• Members 12 posts
    April 17, 2023, 1:08 p.m.

    Higher resolution has always meant larger print sizes.

    This sensor has been rumoured for six years, so I will believe it when I see it.

    If it comes out it will compete with the other 40mm x 53mm sensors, like in the Phase One and Hasselblad cameras.

    If Fuji chooses to use it they will need another camera and lens system to utilize it. They would likely provide a crop format to use GFX lenses. Let's see...GFZ? In the film days Fuji produced at least three different sized medium format cameras, so an additional Fuji format is possible.

  • Members 173 posts
    April 17, 2023, 1:54 p.m.

    I should have been more specific. Who is actually producing larger prints and for what purpose? For instance, I have read the fashion industry uses the high mp cameras. Who else?

    We have moved to primarily electronic media to display things, most often at only moderately high resolution. Unless you are zooming in, a 2k or 4k display really does not take advantage of all those extra pixels.

  • Members 6 posts
    April 17, 2023, 2:15 p.m.

    Hence the rise of the cell phone as a camera replacement.

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    April 17, 2023, 3:26 p.m.

    To me it means less aliasing, among other things. But mostly that.

  • Members 457 posts
    April 17, 2023, 3:30 p.m.

    I do not print larger with high-resolution than with low-resolution sensors.
    For me, it means more data: better details when downscaled, more data for better post-processing, and less aliasing.

    Both SDC and AI NR seem to work better with higher resolution. Of course, perspective correction and leveling also work better with higher resolution.

  • Members 449 posts
    April 17, 2023, 3:44 p.m.

    Hi,

    I have always produced a print. This, from the film days, where I didn't want to shoot positive and stick the slides into a projector.

    135 small format didn't make as nice an 8x10 to hang on the wall or stick in a coffee table book as 645 medium format did.

    Same was true for digital. The APS-C sensor cameras didn't do as well as the APS-H ones. Meaning 2-3 MP v 6 MP. Later I wanted larger than 8x10 and moved to MF again as that offered 16 MP for a better 11x14 print. Keep in mind there are always pixels lost from the shooting aspect ratio to the printed one.

    Once I picked up a Nikon Df, with those 16 MP, I passed on most of the other cameras. I figured I could do just fine with the printer I had feeding it from the Df. Until I wanted to print larger once again. Now at 16x20. So I looked around and chose a 40 MP MF.

    But that's back to a Kodak CCD and limitations over the newer CMOS from Sony. Now I can say that for where I am now with printing, a 50 MP would do well. Seemingly. However, I don't care for the aliasing it has. And that means looking at the 100 MP sensor instead.

    So, that's it in a nutshell.

    Stan

  • Members 514 posts
    April 17, 2023, 4:14 p.m.

    16"x20" is a print size you can do on a printer like the P900. At A2 size I'm having trouble telling a difference between my cameras from m4/3 to medium format to 100MP stitched with a Rhinocam. Perhaps it's just me.

  • Members 449 posts
    April 17, 2023, 5:16 p.m.

    Hi,

    I am also doing that size on a specialized Direct To Garment printer using DuPont Artistri inks. And there it make a greater difference than it does on paper.

    Yes, I could have done this using a Nikon D850 but there I have to cut more off the ends to get to 5:4 as it's 3:2 than I do from 4:3. And the Pentax P645D and all these lenses cost less than a used D850 back in 2020. And I've been doing fine with the 645D. So my eyeballing upgrades doesn't have any urgency. I ought to go fo a P645z, but would rather have the 100 MP sensor over the 50 MP one and that isn't an option with Pentax.

    Stan

  • Members 173 posts
    April 17, 2023, 5:29 p.m.

    I did a bit of reading. That makes sense and I see how it applies to the fashion industry. It depends what you take pictures of I guess.

  • Members 457 posts
    April 17, 2023, 6 p.m.

    Switch to monochrome.

  • Members 1738 posts
    April 17, 2023, 6:15 p.m.

    And how sensitive you are to the aliasing artifacts. For me, once seen, they're hard to unsee.

  • Members 449 posts
    April 17, 2023, 8:18 p.m.

    Hi,

    Yes. Yes, they are. Rather like the arrow in the middle of the FedEx logo.... ;)

    Stan

  • Members 1 post
    April 17, 2023, 8:30 p.m.

    I like the 1st four Ideas but the higher MP count is a little overkill I think. I love what I'm getting from my 100s right now. I don't want to sacrifice noise for more resolution.

  • Members 1738 posts
    April 17, 2023, 8:38 p.m.

    There's no reason why higher resolution should cause more noise at the same print size. These days, sensors have FWCs of about 3000 electrons per square micrometer, independent of resolution.

  • Members 12 posts
    April 17, 2023, 11:14 p.m.

    Of course a 150 MP 40x53mm sensor is virtually identical in resolution to the 100 MP 33x44mm GFX. There may be incremental improvements and slightly different effects of aperture. So a 200 MP sensor would help differentiate the two, and get one step ahead of the IQ4.

  • Members 21 posts
    April 18, 2023, 8:30 p.m.

    So if we get to 150 MP or 200 MP will the GFX100 2 best the grail Phase One IQ4?
    Will the 120 Macro lenses stack up well in a competition?
    Will it best Phase One in sport?
    Are you already considering pulling the trigger on the unannounced GFX 100 2?

  • Members 1738 posts
    April 18, 2023, 9:12 p.m.

    Probably the SLR version, but not the tech camera with the Rodie HR lenses.
    Probably.
    You're joking.
    Of course.

  • Members 21 posts
    April 19, 2023, 12:23 a.m.

    Semi joking with sport. Put it there for you as hoped it would get you to smile or laugh . As for sport, the photo I would love to see is photo of you at some sport event with maybe grand kids game shooting with the next Gfx on a monopod. It is a photo of you being, being you the photographer . Get well and may you enjoy pushing the healing.