Quick facts: DPDiscuss vs. DPRevived

Hi Bob,

It takes some time for the DPReview mod to approve my reply. Here's my initial reply to you on DPReview:

I'm online now, but reading some news :-)

I appreciate your frankness, and will reply to you soon.

Some quick info:

I want to use free resources backed by big companies (so that they're not easy to fall; DPR/Amazon did keep the DPR forums up for nearly 25 years, if you look on the bright side) to build a successor to DPR forums at almost no cost to me. There are two options: Facebook groups and Google groups. What's wrong with Google groups is that they only allow you to attach an up to 10MB image to your post, and when you actually send the post, they further restrict the whole post's data size to an even smaller limit: you can actually only make a post with an image up to 6MB. Many DPR users are used to post original-size JPEGs exported from RAW files, usually 10+ MB in size. So Google groups are currently a no go for me. Facebook groups, on the other hand, you already know, allow you to attach an image of any size but will automatically downsize it to a Facebook-defined size, and it also allows you to attach a File up to 100MB which can be an original-size photo or RAW file. The biggest technical advantage of DPR forums is they allow you to add original-size shots in your post, which is essential for photographers to discuss and enjoy IQ.

Obviously, a Google group is more like a traditional forum / message board, but the image size issue above takes priority, so I chose Facebook groups as my solution.

sherman mentioned that Facebook groups are not searchable. Wrong. There is a magnifier icon on the upper right of a Facebook group's main interface for you to search with that group. If the group is a public group, all posts in it will also be indexed by Google. Further reading: smallbusiness.chron.com/facebook-groups-searchable-google-63661.html

I will come up with more answers, but the reasons above is why I chose Facebook groups.

Again, I like Bob's frankness and will write more later.

p.s. My biggest question for Bob: Why don't you start from an existing forum software system such as phpBB?

I will be joining anything to do with Facebook the day after "never".

And I will correct my "Quick Facts". I didn't intend to "disinformation/misinformation"; I just didn't know much about DPRevived.

I really like dprevived.

Hi, what is the purpose of this thread? It seems very strange to post about a competing forum here.

I have no idea but DPDiscuss isn't a Forum it's a Faceplant (page)

It’s not much competition either. I just had a quick sample of a few of their groups, and the membership of each was single digits.

Even the DPForum is quite empty in posting. Most categories don’t even have a single post yet.

Think of these categories as shelves in a library. To be filled with books as time goes bye.
With over 1600 members in days, this site is very successful.

I can understand why a lot of people have negative feelings about Facebook, but Facebook is like anything else, and is what a person makes of it.

I must not be a sentient citizen (as one other person put it) because I like some Facebook photography related groups. I love the Sony RX1 series of cameras, and Facebook has a very good “RX1 World Shooters” group.

Much more information and talk about the RX1 series, there, than on DPR.

Just the same, everyone is different, and as I said, I can understand why some people stay away from Facebook.

In what way are the two even comparable ? dpdiscuss is literally just 70+ facebooks groups in a trenchoat.

On the subject of misinformation, are you feeling proud about this post where you try to imply that a few minutes of scheduled maintenance on this site this morning (something that even DPReview needed from time to time) is proof that it can’t be relied on? www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66986901

Please just give up on your FB idea, which despite your now constant spamming at DPR has completely failed. I had a good look through your groups yesterday and couldn’t find even one with a membership into double figures. There are already well established FB photography and brand groups for those that want them; they aren’t a replacement for a proper forum like this and never will be.

At this point, and observing some of your tactics, I’m seriously starting to doubt your good intentions. Had DPDiscuss taken off it would be a pretty good like farm for someone.

That spin is not going to keep spinnig on its own you know 😜

www.youtube.com/watch?v=axizl_FQRfs

Facebook is essentially an intelligence gathering operation with a very dodgy history. If you think the Chinese Social Credit scoring system is great you'll love it. Personally I value my privacy so the chances of me ever having an account on there are less than zero. I mean posting photos with exif and possibly location data on a site surreptitiously using facial recognition and a whole suite of data harvesting tools, what could possibly go wrong? That's probably the worst call since the Sinclair C5.

Hi Rafal. Firstly thank you very much for joining bobn2's team here on this forum to help out. I'm sure you will be a very big help :-)

Secondly, from your post I can see now how to embed youtube videos in posts which is very handy and useful as well.

That spin is not going to keep spinnig on its own you know 😜

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axizl_FQRfs

Lastly, and this is just my (and hopefully other members as well) personal wish list feature for this forum. I see that the "[img]" BBcode tag is enabled on this forum but unfortunately any CSS styles added to the tag to size and position images in a post are completely ignored when the post is previewed.

Is implementing CSS styles for the "[IMG]" bbcode tag on your to-do list? It would be very useful and user friendly to be able to position images side by side in a post for comparison or whatever purposes. Something like this:

[img style="float:right;width30%"]pathname to image[/img]

Who cares?
What matters is community. I don’t care if we have 1,000 or 100,000 members. I don’t care if we have all the features.

I’ve worked in high tech for 30+ years and I can tell this place has a lot of extremely talented people who offer advice. As a community, DPRevived is off to a fantastic start, because we have some fantastic people here.

It’s all about the people. The features are nice, for sure, but 99.9% is a community, where we can learn, share, have fun, and become better photographers. I appreciate Bob and the others so much for building this community.