• Members 4254 posts
    May 7, 2023, 10:51 a.m.

    sorry, couldn't resist 😊 (just kiddin')

  • Members 457 posts
    May 7, 2023, 2:15 p.m.

    A useful sub-thread would be sharing your opinion on what you think is art (without using examples of your photographs).

    Here is an article from 1997 (Amei Wallach, NYT) that asked art-world participants for answers:

    ART; Is It Art? Is It Good? And Who Says So?

  • Members 2 posts
    May 8, 2023, 12:54 p.m.

    If you frame it, wall it, and say it's art; then it is.

  • Members 243 posts
    May 8, 2023, 2:55 p.m.

    Not necessarily. Just like photographs that are just documenting things are hard to define as art, sometimes houses gotta get painted too.

  • Members 1802 posts
    May 8, 2023, 5:24 p.m.

    Recommended Reading: The Interior Landscape by Guy Tal. Especially the chapter "Artistic Merit in Photography."

  • Members 535 posts
    May 8, 2023, 5:35 p.m.

    In addition, I would recommend The Creative Act: A Way of Being by (hip hop producer) Rick Rubin.

  • Members 208 posts
    June 5, 2023, 4:59 p.m.

    I'm sure I've seen books/magazines referring to 'fine art' photography dating back to at least 1870. Is there any point debating it 150 years later?

  • Members 273 posts
    June 5, 2023, 6:27 p.m.

    It's fortunate that Nicolaus Copernicus didn't accept that line of thinking after thousands of years of writings about how the Earth was the center of the universe.

  • Members 457 posts
    June 5, 2023, 6:45 p.m.

    You, sir, are no Copernicus πŸ˜‰.

  • June 5, 2023, 7:17 p.m.

    Very interesting.
    You are just telling that you are generally not able to perceive art as art, at least not in sense it is commonly used.

    Can you find/link some examples of paintings what you like? Or photographs?
    Do you consider pre-photography ages paintings (landscapes, portraits etc), where the major goal was to 'record' scene or object truthfully, in finest details - and to convey emotion at the same time, art or not?
    I quickly searched for some examples of such 'photographic looking' art - would you move them into dumpster or can you enjoy painters work?
    www.thecollector.com/8-dutch-landscape-painters-17th-century/

  • Members 208 posts
    June 5, 2023, 7:41 p.m.

    That's a very different discussion. Is photography art depends (among other things) on the definition of art. We can say that some people have considered photography to be art at least some of thew time for around 150 years, but others have disagreed for the same time. It's an even more pointless debate than equivalence or the other regular digital regulars.

    The point the universe revolves around does not depend on our definitions. No opinion involved, so it is possible to be wrong.

  • Members 273 posts
    June 6, 2023, 1:08 p.m.

    No, it's exactly the same - just because we've done something for a long time doesn't mean there's no point in debating if it's right.

  • Members 243 posts
    June 6, 2023, 1:28 p.m.

    Do any of you ever get sick of this?

  • June 6, 2023, 4:39 p.m.